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Does Baptizing prove Trinity?

Let us look at Mathew 28:18-20 "And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying:  All authority (from GOD) has been given me in heaven and on the earth.  Go therefore and make disciples of people of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father (God), the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (GOD's inspiration), teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.  And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things."  Here in this verse we have few points that Trinitarians often confuse.  Trinitarians use this verse very heavily to try to prove that Jehovah or Allah is 3 in 1, meaning that GOD is the father + Jesus + The Holy Spirit.  

This claim is a false one, because when Jesus said in Mathew 28:18-20 ".....All authority (from GOD) has been give to me in heaven and on the earth...." it clearly shows that Jesus had a stronger or higher power over him.  One has to ask himself a very simple question here:  How can GOD say that GOD had given him authority?  It doesn't make any sense, does it?

Also, when Jesus in Mathew 28:18-20 said ".....baptizing them in the name of the Father (God), the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (GOD'S inspiration)...." he didn't say go and baptize people in my name (Jehovah).  He mentioned his GOD first, then himself (GOD'S messenger), and in GOD's inspiration (The Holy Spirit).  This clearly disproves the claim that GOD IS THREE = GOD+JESUS+HOLY SPIRIT.  

Also, when Jesus in Mathew 28:18-20 said "......teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you....." well of course Jesus's disciples needed to teach people from what Jesus taught them !!!.  Jesus was GOD's messenger, and God's favorite "Son" at that time.  GOD had inspired Jesus with all the teachings that people need to go and preach worshiping Jehovah, love and harmony to all people.  

Also, when Jesus said in Mathew 28:18-20 ".....And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things." he (Jesus) was referring to the Holy Spirit that GOD will send to Jesus's disciples through either Jesus's inspiration or GOD's inspiration to them.  This also doesn't prove that Jesus is Jehovah or Allah.  We must keep in mind that Jesus was not a normal human being.  He was the King of all Kings and the Lord of all Lords as stated above in (Revelation 19:16 .  He had power from GOD, and he was GOD's favorite "Son" at that time.  Jesus had the power to inspire his followers through GOD's Power, because GOD allowed him to do that.

Further more about Matthew 28:18-20 from www.jewsforjudaism.org:

Question: Doesn't the command by Matthew's Jesus to, "Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19) show the existence of a triune deity.

Answer: Matthew 28:19 states: "Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit." Although the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are grouped together, this verse does not prove the existence of a triune deity. The verse merely indicates the author's belief that they are to be mentioned together during baptism. Each is thought to have a function in the initiation of the believer during the baptism ritual. Yet no doctrine of coequality among them is promulgated in this verse.
In the early period baptism was simply in "Christ" (Galatians 3:27) or in the name of Jesus (1 Corinthians 1:13, Acts 8:16, 19:5). The text in Matthew represents a later stage of development, but is still not trinitarian in meaning. The doctrine of the trinity is a still later development.

 

Let us look at Hebrew 5:7 "During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission."  Here we see Jesus prayed to God be saved and God HEARD ( in any religious speech the HEARD means that the person has been answer with the prayer) him.

Let us look at Mark 12:29 "The first of all the commandments is, Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord."  If trinity was a valid belief, then Mark 12:29 would have said "God is three in one".

Let us also look at Acts 3:22 "In fact, Moses said:  Jehovah will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me.  You must listen to him according to all the things he speaks to you."  Here we see Prophet Moses peace be upon him predicting the coming Prophet Jesus peace be upon him.  Acts 3:22 didn't say that Jehovah will come down to earth in a form of a human being.  Moses said in Acts 3:22 ".....a prophet like me.....", which means that Jesus will be a human being like Moses.  If Jesus was Jehovah or Allah himself, then Moses wouldn't have said ".....a prophet like me.....".

Let us look at Mathew 3:16 "After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and, look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove God's spirit coming upon him.  Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved."  Here we see how much GOD loved Jesus and how much he admired him.  Jehovah or Allah in Mathew 3:16 was clearly greeting his messenger (Jesus), and telling him how much he loves him.

 

The devil tempting Jesus 3 times:

In Mathew 4:1-2 "Then Jesus was led by the spirit up into the wilderness to be tempted by the Devil.  After he had fasted forty days and forty nights, then he felt hungry."  One has to ask himself a very simple question here:  Why would Jesus allow the Devil to lead him to the wilderness to try to tempt him if he were God?  This clearly proves that Jesus is not and can not be God!!!.

In Mathew 4:5-6 "The the devil took him along into the holy city, and he stationed him upon the battlement of the temple and said to him:  If you are a son of God, hurl yourself down; for it is written He (Jehovah) will give his angels a charge concerning you, and they will carry you on their hands, that you may at no time strike your foot against a stone.  Jesus said to him:  Again it is written, you must not put Jehovah your God to the test."  Here we see that the devil for the second time tried to tempt Jesus and have him do things that would make him doubt his GOD Jehovah or Allah.  Jesus replied to him by telling him that no matter what you try to do, you will never be able to test your GOD (your creator).  The devil was trying to have Jehovah or Allah send angels to Jesus, and Jesus made it clear to the devil that no one can put GOD to the test, and no one can have GOD do anything without the will of GOD.  The devil will never be able to have Jehovah or Allah send down his angels if Jehovah didn't will it.

In Mathew 4:8-10 "Again the devil took him along to an unusually high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory, and he said to him:  All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.  Then Jesus said to him:  God away Satan! For it is written, It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone, you must render sacred service."  Here we clearly see that after the devil offered Jesus the world, Jesus told him to go away and to go and worship Allah Almighty or Jehovah.  One has to ask himself a very simple question here:  If Jesus was Jehovah, then how come he didn't tell Satan in Mathew 4:8-10 "It is me whom you must worship" ?  Jesus told Satan "It is Jehovah your God you must worship", which clearly shows that Jesus is not Jehovah!.

 

 

 

 

 

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