Early Christians rejected Trinity. They also had major problems and disagreements about who truly Jesus was and whether or not he got crucified or not:
The sections of this article are:
1- Early Christians rejected Trinity.
2- Questions to Trinitarian Christians.
3- Early Christians, especially during the 2nd century, had major disagreements and
problems with each others about the identity of Jesus and whether or not he got
crucified.
4- The quotes of Peter's
Apocalypse that confirm Islam's claims.
See link of Web site that contains the quotes. JESUS
NEVER GOT CRUCIFIED!
1- Early Christians rejected Trinity:
The following was sent to me by brother Fikirman; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
We, Muslims are not the only ones who believe that Jesus (peace be upon him) is mortal and not a god so that means we deny the trinity.
The Jews also reject the trinity, in addition to the very first groups of Christianity such as the Ebonites, the Corinthians, the Basilidians, the Capocratians, and the Hypisistarians never know about trinity doctrine at all. The Arians, Paulicians and Goths also accepted Jesus (peace be upon him) as a prophet of God and against the trinity.
Even in the modern age there are churches in Asia, in Africa, the Unitarian church, the Jehovah's witnesses, and even the majority of today's Anglican Bishops do not worship Jesus (peace be upon him) as one in three, as what been report by the "Daily News" 25/6/84 under the heading "Shock survey of Anglican Bishops."
Moreover, the 'Socinianism', the 17th-century Christian also rejects such traditional doctrines as the Trinity and original sin, the founder is Socinus, and his Latinized name of Lelio Francesco Maria Sozzini (1525-1562), the Italian Protestant theologian.
Johannes Greber (1874) a former of Catholic priest in his book 'The Communication with the Spirit World of God' in page 371 was written, "As you see, the doctrine of a triune Godhead is not only contrary to common sense, but is entirely unsupported by the Scriptures". So another priest who was deny the trinity.
A theologians, Edouard Schillebeeckx of the Netherlands in 1979 was writings some article that rejects the doctrine of the Trinity. This caused concern to the Vatican.
2- Question to Trinitarian Christians:
Why, for thousands of years, did none of God's prophets teach his people about the Trinity? At the least, would Jesus not use his ability as the Great Teacher to make the Trinity clear to his followers? Would God inspire hundreds of pages of Scripture and yet not use any of this instruction to teach the Trinity if it were the "central doctrine" of faith?
3- Early Christians, especially during the 2nd century, had major disagreements and problems with each others about the identity of Jesus and whether or not he got crucified:
Introductory Note:
Hebrews 5:7-8 confirm Islam's claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible! According to the documentary film, "Banned from the Bible", which I watched on the History Channel, some of Saint Peter's apocalypse were banned from the current Bible, and these Epistles contain what Islam claims - that Jesus didn't get crucified on the cross and it only appeared that he was. This banned part also says that Jesus was standing next to the cross laughing. These are the parts of the Bible that only few people in the world know about.
According to the documentary film, the apocalypse was very popular among Christians during the 2nd century. They believed "it was spiritually inspired" by GOD Almighty to Saint Peter. They actually had doubts about "John's apocalypse", which is known today as "the Book of Revelation". Interestingly also, this apocalypse says that after GOD Almighty fills both Heaven and Hell with inhabitants from Mankind, and the people of Hell get tortured for a long period of time, the People of Heaven will ask and Pray to GOD Almighty to Forgive the people of Hell. GOD Almighty will then eventually listen to their Prayers, and will order the "Gates and the Steel Bars of Hell" to be opened and allow the people of Hell to enter Heaven for Good. This apocalypse of Peter seems to also perfectly fit Noble Verse 7:40 in the Noble Quran where Allah Almighty Promised that He will eventually open the Gates of Heaven to all disbelievers and empty Hell. Please visit: Hell will eventually be empty according to Islam.
The following three posts from my message board contain the proofs and references about early apocalypses and epistles conflicting with trinity, Jesus' identity about being GOD, and the crucifixion story. During the 2nd century, it was widely believed among many Christians that Jesus never got crucified. This belief perfectly agrees with Islam.
First Post:
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Osama Abdallah The apocalypse of Peter confirms ISLAM'S Jesus never got crucified AND Hell will eventually be empty! 4/09/2004 |
Peace be upon you everyone,
I just finished watching the documentary film, "Banned from the Bible" on the History Channel.
Please visit: Hebrews 5:7-8 confirm Islam's claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible! (http://www.answering-christianity.com/hebrews5_7.htm) According to the documentary film, some of Saint Peter's apocalypse were banned from the current Bible, and these Epistles contain what Islam claims - that Jesus didn't get crucified on the cross and it only appeared that he was. This banned part also says that Jesus was standing next to the cross laughing. These are the parts of the Bible that only few people in the world know about.
According to the documentary film, the apocalypse was very popular among Christians during the 2nd century. They believed "it was spiritually inspired" by GOD Almighty to Saint Peter. They actually had doubts about "John's apocalypse", which is known today as "the Book of Revelation". Interestingly also, this apocalypse says that after GOD Almighty fills both Heaven and Hell with inhabitants from Mankind, and the people of Hell get tortured for a long period of time, the People of Heaven will ask and Pray to GOD Almighty to Forgive the people of Hell. GOD Almighty will then eventually listen to their Prayers, and will order the "Gates and the Steel Bars of Hell" to be opened and allow the people of Hell to enter Heaven for Good. This apocalypse of Peter seems to also perfectly fit Noble Verse 7:40 in the Noble Quran where Allah Almighty Promised that He will eventually open the Gates of Heaven to all disbelievers and empty Hell. Please visit: Hell will eventually be empty according to Islam (www.answering-christianity.com/hell.htm).
Best regards,
Osama Abdallah
Second Post:
From http://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/message_board_islam/read_post.cgi?file_name=162/4.txt
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Osama Abdallah RE:RE:The apocalypse of Peter confirms ISLAM'S Jesus never got crucified AND Hell will eventually be empty! 4/10/2004 |
As'salamu Alaikum brother,
In regards to obtaining a copy of the banned apocalypse, I am not aware of any place that you can buy it from. But you can go to any major university and ask any theology professor and he should be able to assist you better.
You can purchase the documentary film, "Banned from the Bible", at www.historychannel.com and watch it for yourself.
In regards to the New Testament, there are 24,000 epistles (letters) found so far that were written about Jesus. Constantine, which came around year 300 decided to chose the current 30+ books and gospels of the "Cannon" or New Testament. But before that, many books or epistles were believed to be inspired, including this banned apocalypse. In fact, this apocalypse was "very popular" and was widely believed that it was "SPIRITUALLY INSPIRED TO SAINT PETER".
The point is, Contantine's decision along with his church is irrelevant here. The 30+ current books of the Bible are corrupted and were written by men. They were chosen from 24,000 epistles, and the 30+ books do contain contradictions in them regarding Jesus' divinity and identity. In www.answering-christianity.com/contra.htm, I have provided ample proof for this.
I personally don't have any proof about the divinity of the banned apocalypse, other than that it was widely believed in during the 2nd century and it perfectly agrees with Islam. To me, Islam's Truth proves the apocalypse's Truthfulness. It is an indirect proof, but it is the only proof anyone can give to any of the 24,000 epistles. Early Christians had major problems and disagreements about who truly Jesus was and whether or not he got crucified or not. Constantine's *easy way out* did not solve the problem, because his books and gospels do contain errors and contradictions in them as well, and some of them even suggest that Jesus never got crucified, as I explained in www.answering-christianity.com/hebrews5_7.htm.
Best regards,
Osama Abdallah
Third Post:
From http://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/message_board_islam/read_post.cgi?file_name=162/5.txt
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Osama Abdallah The documentary film can be purchased at this link..... 4/10/2004 |
http://store.aetv.com/html/search/index.jhtml?search=banned+from+the+bible&x=0&y=0
Best regards,
Osama Abdallah
4- The quotes of Peter's Apocalypse that confirm Islam's claims:
The following quotes, proofs and references of the quotes were posted by brother Haytham on my message board, may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him. I have colored and bolded important points below to make easier to read.
From http://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/message_board_islam/read_post.cgi?file_name=162/7.txt
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Haytham I GOT IT QUOTED HERE 4/11/2004 |
The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."
But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at you. Let us flee this place."
But he said to me, "I have told you, "Leave the blind alone!". And you, see how they do not know what they are saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."
And I saw someone about to approach us resembling him, even him who was laughing on the tree. And he was filled with a Holy Spirit, and he is the Savior. And there was a great, ineffable light around them,and the multitude of ineffable and invisible angels blessing them. And when I looked at him, the one who gives praise was revealed.
And he said to me, "Be strong, for you are the one to whom these mysteries have been given, to know them through revelation, that he whom they crucified is the first-born, and the home of demons, and the stony vessel, in which they dwell, of Elohim, of the cross, which is under the Law. But he who stands near him is the living Savior, the first in him, whom they seized and released, who stands joyfully looking those who did him violence,while they are divided among themselves. Therefore he laughs at their lack of perception, knowing that they are born blind. So then the one susceptible to suffering shall come, since the body is the substitute.But what they released was my incorporeal body. But I am the intellectual Spirit filled with radiant light.He whom you saw coming to me is our intellectual Palermo , which unites the perfect light with my Holy Spirit."
Read on :
"But many others, who oppose the truth and are the messengers of error, will set up their error and their law against these pure thoughts of mine, as looking out from one perspective, thinking that good and evil are from one source. They do business in my word. And they will propagate harsh fate. The race of immortal souls will go in it in vain, until my Parousia. For they shall come out of them, and my forgiveness of their transgressions into which they fell through the adversaries, whose ransom I got from the slavery in which they were, to give them freedom that they may create an imitation remnant in the name of a dead man, who is Hermas, of the first-born of unrighteousness, in order that the light which exists may not believed by the little ones. But those of this sort are the worker who will be cast into the outer darkness, away from the sons of light. For neither will they enter, nor do they permit those who are going up to their approval for their release."
Taken from :
http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/apoc/fgapcpt.htm
Note from me, Osama Abdallah: The article has moved to: http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/noncanon/apoc/fgapcpt.htm
It is noteworthy that many other gospels contain similar messages. You guys need to understand and know that in the first century,
1) EVERY CHURCH HAD ITS OWN DOCTRINE
2) EVERY CHURCH HAD ITS OWN SCRIPTURES.
Not until the first council did the people in Rome set what we see today as the standard christian theology. All those other early churches have been persecuted and killed for their different views.
Salam Alaikum.
Muhammad was prophesized in the Bible.
Corruption in the Old Testament.
History of Man's corruption of the Bible.
The New Testament was not even written by its original authors.
The "God" title in Isaiah 9:6 was given to others before and after Jesus.
The early Christians rejected Trinity and never believed in it.
Contradictions in the resurrection story in the Bible.
Was Jesus crucified
on a tree (according to Peter), cross (according to others), or never got crucified
(according to Islam)?
We only believe in Jesus' personal quotes as closest to the truth.
Jesus according to Islam never got killed on the cross. Allah
Almighty saved him.
Does Psalm 16:8-11 refer to Jesus' resurrection as the book of Acts suggest?
Jesus was never crucified according to the Gospel of Barnabas.
Isaiah 42-54 seem to predict Islam and the removal of GOD Almighty's Covenant from the people of Israel.
Deconstructing Isaiah 53 & the crucifixion/resurrection of Jesus - Exposing Paul's inventions.
Did Isaiah 53 really
prophesies about the crucifixion of Jesus? It supports Islam's claims
about Jesus peace be upon him never died on the cross. I also addressed John
19:36-37 from the Bible and proved that Jesus never got crucified, since GOD Almighty
promised that he will protect Jesus' body and not let even a single bone be broken.
My question to all Christians is: How in the world is it possible
for the feet to get nailed on the cross without any penetration to the bones by the nails,
hence breaking part of the feet's bones?! I also added
refutations to Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12, Zechariah 12:10
and Psalm 34:20, which supposedly prove the Christians' belief about Jesus
crucifixion. I proved that this dogma has no truth what so ever and exposed the
wrong Trinitarian English translation of Zechariah 12:10. I also showed in Isaiah 52:13 "...he will be raised and lifted up....", which clearly and perfectly agrees with Islam about Jesus never died on
the cross. "Raised and lifted" suggests that Jesus will be picked
up right from the cross, or saved right from the cross by Allah Almighty. It
suggests that Jesus will not die, nor get crucified, but rather be raised and
lifted by GOD Almighty to Heavens.
Hebrews 5:7-8
confirm Islam's claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible!
According to the documentary film, "Banned
from the Bible", which I watched on the History Channel, some of
Saint Peter's apocalypse were banned from the current Bible, and these
Epistles contain what Islam claims - that Jesus didn't get crucified on the cross and it
only appeared that he was. This banned part also says that Jesus was
standing next to the cross laughing. These are the parts of the Bible that
only few people in the world know about.
According to the documentary film, the apocalypse was very popular among Christians during the 2nd century. They believed "it was spiritually inspired" by GOD Almighty to Saint Peter. They actually had doubts about "John's apocalypse", which is known today as "the Book of Revelation". Interestingly also, this apocalypse says that after GOD Almighty fills both Heaven and Hell with inhabitants from Mankind, and the people of Hell get tortured for a long period of time, the People of Heaven will ask and Pray to GOD Almighty to Forgive the people of Hell. GOD Almighty will then eventually listen to their Prayers, and will order the "Gates and the Steel Bars of Hell" to be opened and allow the people of Hell to enter Heaven for Good. This apocalypse of Peter seems to also perfectly fit Noble Verse 7:40 in the Noble Quran where Allah Almighty Promised that He will eventually open the Gates of Heaven to all disbelievers and empty Hell. Please visit: Hell will eventually be empty according to Islam.