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Answering Jeremiah 23:5-6:  A big blow to Sam Shamoun's trinity nonsense existing in the Old Testament:

The sections of this article are:

1-  A big blow to Sam Shamoun's trinity nonsense existing in the Old Testament.
2-  Also, Jesus WAS NOT from King Solomon's blood!!
3-  The challenge still stands Shamoun, WHERE in the Bible was Jesus EVER called "Yahweh"?
4-  Rebuttals. 
My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's response.


 

 

1-  A big blow to Sam Shamoun's trinity nonsense existing in the Old Testament:

On Paltalk, I asked Sam Shamoun the following question:  "Show us in the Bible where Jesus was called Yahweh?" After Shamoun halted for several seconds, and started scrambling, he gave the following Verse from the Bible's Old Testament:

"Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.  In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his  name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.  (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 23:5-6)"

Shamoun's nonsensical point was that David's Branch, who according to the Old Testament must come from David's son Solomon's blood line (2 Samuel 7:14, 1 Chronicle 17:11-14, 22:9-10 and 28:4-6), will be a King who will reign and prosper, and will execute judgement and justice in the earth, and his name will be "The LORD OUR RIGHTEOUS" or "JEHOVAH OUR RIGHTEOUS".

Note:  The linked verses are displayed in details in the section below.

To ordinary readers, this sounds like a sound and irrefutable proof that Jesus is indeed Yahweh Almighty!  However, I have written a well-documented article that EXPOSES THE TRINITARIANS' LIES, especially in their English translations to prove that Jesus is their god.  Many people before and after Jesus in the Bible were given GODLY names similar to the one above in Jeremiah 23:6.  Let us look at few of them:

From www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:

Important Note:  The "Yahweh" in many Hebrew names is shortened because it apparently makes the name much easier to pronounce since it is used often.   It is very similar to our shortened names today such as:

1-  Michael shortened for Mike.
2-  Samuel shortened for Sam.


1-  Jerusalem was called "The LORD our Righteousness".  "In those days Judah will be saved and Jerusalem will live in safety. This is the name by which it will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness (Yahweh tsidkenû).'  (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 33:16)"

2- Ezekiel means "Strong God".  It also means "Yahweh is Strong God".

3- Elijah.  This name is short for EliJehovah or "Eli Yahweh".  Eli means my GOD, and Yahweh is the name and title of GOD Almighty in the Bible.  Does "Eli Yahweh" or Elijah mean that the person is Jehovah Himself?

4- Israel means "Challenge God", "he struggles with God", or "fight with God".  It also means "Defeat God".

5- Gabriel also means "Strong God".

6- Isaiah or Jesaiah, which is short for "Jesa Yahweh" means "Salvation from Yahweh".  It could also mean "Salvation".

7- Joshua, which is short for "Josh Yahweh" means "Yahweh Saves".

8- Elli, which is a common name for men before and after Jesus, means "God".   Psalm 82:6  "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' "  "gods" here in Hebrew is "Elohim", which is plural of "EL".  It is the same exact thing as "EL" used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6, since "gods" is a combination of several "EL"s.  And as clearly shown here, for someone to be called "god" or "God" in the Bible it wouldn't make him GOD Almighty Himself, the LORD or Jehovah.  I also want to point out that ANY "Son of GOD" in the Bible is a "god" or "God" as clearly shown in Psalm 82:6.

Note:  The trinitarian liars who translate the Bible into English play dirty tricks about capitalizing and lowering the "g" in "God" to prove their trinity lie, while they fully know that it is the same word used for ALL!


9- Immanuel, Emanuel, Emmanuel, Immanuel, or Imanuel are the SAME NAME and are another name for Jesus, means "With us is God".  This name is also common for men before and after Jesus.

10- Elihu means "My God is He". 

11- Gedaliah means "Jehovah is Great".   Again, Gedaliah is short for "Gedal Yahweh".  Is the person who was called "Jehovah is Great" GOD Almighty Himself?  People before and after Jesus are given this name.  See 2 Kings 25:22-24.

12- Eliadah or Eliada means "God knows". 

13- Eliab means "my God is Father".

14- Elzaphan means "God is Protector"

15- Eliakim means "God raises".

16- Elisha means "God is Salvation". 

17- Eleazar means "God has helped"

18- Judah or Yahawdah means "Praised".  It generally means "Praised by Yahweh".

19- Hashabiah means "Jehovah has considered".

20- Mattithiah means "Gift of Jehovah".

21- Michael (nick name "Mike") means "who is like God".  Yet, non is like Him, the Almighty.  See Exodus 8:10.

22- Jesus, Yahshua, Yeshua or Yashua are the SAME NAME, and mean "Salvation".  It doesn't mean "God Saves" as Christians claim.  Jesus (Yeshua) means in Hebrew "salvation" and not "God saves".  Yud Shin Waw Ain - this name doesn't include the word "God".

Joshua (Yehoshya) - Yod Hey - Waw Shin Ain
Isaya (Yeshayah) - Yod Shin Ain - Yod Hey .

These two names are combination of Yod, Shin, Ain - salvation and Yod, Hey - Yahwe.

Yosh Hey (Yah) is common short from Yahwe, for example Alleluia comes from "Halelu Yah" - "Glorify Yahwe".


As you CLEARLY can see, the "LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS" title that is given in Jeremiah 23:6 is no different than any of the JEWISH NAMES GIVEN TO PEOPLE AT BIRTH above.  It's just another GODly name that Jews traditionally have made up to name each others, which obviously had contributed to the world-wide catastrophe of the polytheist trinity pagan lie that was created 1700 years ago (trinity being invented and born around year 300 by Constantine)!!

 

 

2-  Also, Jesus WAS NOT from King Solomon's blood!!

Another blow to the trinity lie that Mr. Shamoun believes in is that Jeremiah 23:5-6 along with 2 Samuel 7:14, 1 Chronicle 17:11-14, 22:9-10 and 28:4-6 above are talking about a King coming from David's blood line.   Not only from David's blood line, but he also has to be specifically from King Solomon's (King David's son) blood line.  So in other words, the Messiah can not even be from Nathan's (King David's other son) blood line:

"I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with the rod of men, with floggings inflicted by men.  (From the NIV Bible, 2 Samuel 7:14)"

"When your days are over and you go to be with your fathers, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, one of your own sons, and I will establish his kingdom. He is the one who will build a house for me, and I will establish his throne forever. I will be his father, and he will be my son. I will never take my love away from him, as I took it away from your predecessor. I will set him over my house and my kingdom forever; his throne will be established forever.' "  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Chronicles 17:11-14)"

"But you will have a son who will be a man of peace and rest, and I will give him rest from all his enemies on every side. His name will be Solomon, and I will grant Israel peace and quiet during his reign. He is the one who will build a house for my Name. He will be my son, and I will be his father. And I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.'  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Chronicles 22:9-10)"

" "Yet the LORD , the God of Israel, chose me from my whole family to be king over Israel forever. He chose Judah as leader, and from the house of Judah he chose my family, and from my father's sons he was pleased to make me king over all Israel. Of all my sons-and the LORD has given me many-he has chosen my son Solomon to sit on the throne of the kingdom of the LORD over Israel. 6 He said to me: 'Solomon your son is the one who will build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Chronicles 28:4-6)"

* The above verses were found at: www.jewsforjudaism.org.


To claim that Jesus was a Messiah is one thing.  But to say that he was from King David's blood line is ridiculous!  The reason for this is because Jesus has no biological earthly father, and therefore, he CAN NOT be the Messiah that Mr. Shamoun referred to in Jeremiah 23:5-6.  And even if he was, this still doesn't prove jack about him being the GOD Almighty of this Universe!

 

 

3-  The challenge still stands Shamoun, WHERE in the Bible was Jesus ever called "Yahweh"?

After Mr. Shamoun had been miserably defeated above, my question and challenge still stand to his polytheist trinity lie and paganism:

WHERE in the Bible was Jesus EVER called "Yahweh"?

The rest of the verses that Shamoun used to prove his trinity LIE will be SOUNDLY DEBUNKED like the above ones shortly, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

 

 

4-  Rebuttals:

My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Refuting Osama Abdallah on Jeremiah 23:5-6" article.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The word "Allah" does exist in the original Bible.  Allah is the original name of GOD Almighty according to the Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic sources.  Jehovah or Yahweh is a title and not a name, and it means "The LORD" in English.

The "God" title was given to others before and after Jesus in the Bible.

Emanuel, Emmanuel, Yahshua, Yeshua, Yashua, Immanuel and Imanuel.  These were all "Godly" names given to others before and after Jesus in the Bible.  None of them is unique.   Only "Yahweh" was GOD Almighty's Unique Name.

The definition of "Son of God" in Islam.

"Son of God" means "Servant of God" in Hebrew. Bible agrees with Islam, not with pagan trinity.

"Allah" was GOD Almighty's Original Name in the Bible according to Hebrew and Aramaic sources.


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