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What about John 8:1-11?  Does it really justify fornication, adultery and pornography as many Christians believe?

The sections of this article are:

- What about John 8:1-11?
   - Most Christians don't consider those who divorce and marry again as
      committing adultery.
- The Bible is contradicting itself regarding adultery.
- Rebuttal to the Christian "Answering Islam" team regarding the
   "homosexuality" lie in Islam.

Please be advised that I added a rebuttal section toward the end of this article.

Let us look at John 8:1-11:

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But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.

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At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.

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The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group

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and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.

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In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"

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They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.

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When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

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Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

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At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.

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Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"

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"No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

Many Christians use these verses to justify fornication and pornography.  We all know well that the Bible contains the most disgusting Graphic X-Rated Pornography.  And the use of John 8:1-11 does indeed raise a great concern to Morals and Ethics.

For one thing, it is the biggest mistake for the citizens of the Christian Whoredom to use John 8:1-11 as an excuse for the sexual sins they commit against GOD Almighty.   When Jesus peace be upon him refused to stone the woman, HE ACTUALLY REFUSED TO BE A HYPOCRITE!

Have he ordered the stoning of the woman, he would have been indeed a hypocrite, because people in charge of authority back then were not following anything in the Law properly.  He even called them "hypocrites" in several occasions; see Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15 in the Bible.  So why punish the weakest citizen and leave the cause of the corruption?!  That was the Message that Jesus peace be upon him gave to the people back then.  Notice that John 8:6 clearly says "They were using this question as a trap", which clearly means that the situation of John 8:1-11 was no more than a trap to make Jesus peace be upon him make a mistake.  That's why HE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO OUT SMART HIM AND FORCE HIM TO GIVE ANY JUDGMENT AGAINST THE WOMAN.  Jesus peace be upon him didn't in anyway nullify the Laws of GOD Almighty regarding punishment for adultery.

Keep in mind that Jesus spoke highly of the Old Testament's Law:

Jesus orders Christians to follow the Old Testament's laws:  "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.  I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished.  (Matthew 5:17-18)"  It is quite clear from these verses from the New Testament that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the Old Testament and did say that every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and fulfilled.

"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.  So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.'  (Matthew 23:1-3)"  We clearly see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.

Most Christians don't consider those who divorce and marry again as committing adultery.  Some Christians don't consider fornication as a sin in the Bible:

Let's look at the following examples from the Bible:

Mark 10:11 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her."   

Mark 10:12 "And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."

More than 50% of Western Christians are divorced.  Most of them have second marriages already, and they go to churches and act normally.  They never consider their second or third marriages as invalid marriages.  They never consider their lives with their new spouses as "adultery".  The ones who never marry again after their first marriage, they go and live with their boy-friends or girl-friends as if they were married.  

If you have absolutely no problem with fornication or adultery because of your mis-interpretation of John 8:1-11, then tell me, how is your Bible then supposed to stop some one from sleeping with his own mother, sister or father's former wife? 

Since we are all humans (i.e. sinners), then using your dubious interpretation of John 8:1-11, then no one should be prevented!

Also, how is your Bible then supposed to prevent an uncle from sleeping with his own niece or nephew?

How is your Bible supposed to prevent men from marrying other men and women from marrying other women?  Oh, wait, doesn't this already exist among Christians in the State of California, USA?  The Christian men over there are allowed to marry other Christian men and the Christian women are allowed to marry other Christian women.   They even have their Gays and Lesbians Churches.

Important Note:  If what's right and what's wrong is determined by our society only and not by the Bible, then what is the use and the point of having the Bible then?

Is this a fair question?

Where do you draw the boundaries for sinning in the Pornographic Bible, to help the Righteous be guided and given the proper directions to remain straight and not be led astray in the Christian Whoredom?

Please visit Why do some Muslims call Americans and Westerners "Great Satan"?

If it's ok in Christianity to have sex before marriage, ok to live with someone without marriage (like boyfriend or girlfriend), ok to have anal sex with the same gender (see www.godlovesfags.com and see the thousands of Christians who support them through their guest book) or the other gender, ok for the brother to sleep with his sister, ok for people to expose most of their bodies (by wearing bikinis for instance), ok to spread wickedness among society, then:

WHAT'S NOT OK TO DO THEN????!!!! AND WHY DID GOD DROWN TO DEATH THE PEOPLE OF LOTT AND NOAH THEN? DIDN'T THEY DO THE SAME EXACT THING AS THE CHRISTIANS ARE DOING TODAY FROM SODOMY, AND ILLEGAL SEX WITHOUT MARRIAGE??!!

The Bible is contradicting itself regarding adultery:

For those Christians who think that John 8:1-11 is a justification to their Whoredom (i.e., committing illegal sex openly and freely as mentioned above), then let me tell you that your Bible is ambiguous, self-contradicting and unclear.

Let's assume for a second and go along with their arguments that John 8:1-11 indeed justifies illegal sex, then what about the following verse that clearly contradicts it?

Jesus killed the adulteress' children:

"So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways.   I will strike her children dead.  Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. (From the NIV Bible, Revelation 2:22-23)"  

All what the woman was doing is committing adultery, which is something very common among most Christians in the West today anyway with their "boyfriend-girlfriend living together" to "one night stand" to "having sex with his date or girlfriend", etc... as clearly mentioned above.

Of course Adultery is punishable in Islam.  But I wonder why did Jesus kill the woman's innocent children?  What did they do?  All this to prove something to the Churches?!   I thought you should love your enemies and forgive them!  It's not like the woman had killed anybody!!  Let alone her children didn't have any part of Jesus and their mother!  There is no record in the Bible of these children committing any crimes or sins!

The Bible, with all due respect to Christians, is ridiculously ambiguous and self-contradicting!  There is always room for finding excuses for wickedness as some extreme Christians do such as the Homosexuals and the Sexually Liberated.  There is no solid ground for anything in the Bible.  When you think you found an answer for a question or an issue, you can almost always find a contradiction or conflicting verse that nullifies it.  Take the following example:

Is circumcision allowed in the Bible?  Jesus says Yes.  Paul says No.  Go figure!!

Rebuttal to the Christian "Answering Islam" team regarding the "homosexuality" lie in Islam:

A group from their team had decided after being refuted so many times regarding the lie of homosexuality in Islam to bring quotes from an opinionated Christian book called "True Guidance" in a hope to fool the reader and prove to him the lie of the homosexuality in Islam.

I have proven to them in the links below and made it aware to them times and times before.  But because they couldn't find reliable Islamic resources that could respond to my articles below, they have decided to use a stupid (sorry to say that) trick on the reader and use an opinionated Christian-written book called "True Guidance" to try to prove their lies!

Such hypocrisy can only be found in this lying and desperate Christian-snake team.  I have defeated this snake so many times in the past in my articles and my Rebuttals section.   And the articles below will once again defeat the "rear end" of that Christian snake, Quennel Gale, who used this book in a desperate hope to prove this lie:

Does Paradise in Islam really have Homosexuality in it?

What is the punishment for Homosexuals in Islam?

Adultery punishment in the Bible's Old and New Testaments.

What is the punishment for fornication and adultery in Islam?

See also What is the punishment for rape in Christianity and Islam?  See how the Bible doesn't have any punishment for the rapist of single women.  The liars of the Christian "Answering Islam" team have yet to answer my question raised in this article:

Question to Jews and Christians:   How is the Bible supposed to prevent some loser from stalking the most beautiful single woman in town, rape her, and then sue her in court to become his wife so he can continue raping her for the rest of her life?!

They tried before to bring Sayings of our Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him punishing Jews before according to their own Book, the Torah, for committing adultery.  Again, another cheap and desperate attempt to fool the reader, because rape and adultery are completely different!

And Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him punishing them for adultery according to their Book doesn't at all prove that Islam recognizes the Bible as an error-free book.  Our beloved Prophet peace be upon him only used their book as is to punish them to prove to them that Islam was more merciful to them, since some of them thought that Islam was a harsh religion, and also because this was the Book (the Torah) that they were following to judge among themselves in their life affairs.  So our Prophet peace be upon him kept them with their own laws.

Please visit According to Islam, why did GOD Almighty allow for the Bible to get corrupted?

Just who were the real authors of the Bible? Today's Books and Gospels' authors of the Bible are UNKNOWN.  See the comments that prove that from the Theologians and Historians of the NIV Bible from the NIV Bible itself!  Just why in the world should I believe in today's Bible?

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Christians must follow the laws of the Old Testament that had not been modified or replaced by newer ones in the New Testament.  See proof!

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