Refuting Shahid: A child in a 50-year old body! Note his childish remarks and bad manners and lack of evidence:
This article is a refutation to Shahid bin Waheed's ridiculous attacks and childish remarks, which are located at: http://www.geocities.com/J_1975X/bite.htm.
He wrote:
Responding to Pseudo-Muslim Osama Abdallah’s negative remarks
toward me and my web site with a challenge: Osama Abdallah,
make your bite as bad as your BARK is?
My response:
Throughout his web site at: http://www.geocities.com/sbwus/, Shahid makes childish and irresponsible remarks toward those whom he disagrees with by sayings things such as: "brain fart", "make your bite as bad as your bark", etc....
Obviously Shahid has no respect or honor to Noble Verse 16:125:
"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: For thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.
(The Noble Quran, 16:125)"Tell us Shahid, where is the wisdom and beautiful preaching in your childish and ridiculous remarks? How are "make your bark as bad as your bite" and "brain farts" supposed to be "beautiful preaching"?
I mentioned to Shahid this Noble Verse many times before and advised him to change his attitude. But he never took me seriously. What part of this Noble Verse doesn't make sense to you? And how are you honoring the Noble Quran when you display nothing but offensive attitude and childish remarks that don't suite your age on your web site?
To the reader, please visit: Good Manners in Islam.
Also, please visit: What is the definition of a hypocrite in Islam? And will all "Muslims" make it to Heaven? You'd be surprised to see how Shahid might be a hypocrite according to the Standards of Islam.
He wrote:
I have never known anyone worst than pseudo-Muslim Osama Abdallah, whose mouth (in this case “mouse”) is not connected to his brain. I did rightfully called Osama Abdallah a Murtadd and then later reconciled with him taking his assurances as truth that he has corrected himself and removed the Kufr from his website, that turned out to be a boldface lie.
My response:
"taking his assurances as truth that he has corrected himself and removed the Kufr (apostasy) from his website". Where and when exactly did I give you that assurance? And what exactly did I remove from my site? And what exactly did I tell you that gave you that "assurance"? Care to give us proofs?
Also Shahid, you are very irresponsible and a big goofy hypocrite, because just a month ago (before today's date, 11/12/2003), you had my web site in your "links section", and now I am the biggest idiot of all, and you're back to responding to my articles.
If I am such a poor writer and a "brain farter", then why did you add my site to your links section?
Make up your mind Mr. child. How can anybody take you seriously?!
He wrote:
Pseudo-Muslim Osama Abdallah is a foul mouth,
arrogant and ignorant (of Islaam) pothead who also suffers
with personality disorder. Christian
missionary web site “answering-islam” didn’t pick Murtadd Akbarally
Meherally and Murtadd Osama Abdallah because they were/are most learned individuals.
Jochan Katz and his team picked them because they are most ignorant individuals who help
them look good in front of their trailer park trash audience.
My response:
"Pseudo-Muslim Osama Abdallah is a foul mouth, arrogant and ignorant (of Islaam) pothead who also suffers with personality disorder." Where and when did I have a foul mouth? Care to post the proof here? Also, what proofs do you have that I am suffering with personality disorder?
Everyone is invited to visit my web site at: www.answering-christianity.com and see the consistency in my language and respect to others. But despite all of that Shahid, where and when did I ever use a "foul mouth" with you?
And how in the world did you come up with
the conclusion that I am "arrogant"? And how exactly am I ignorant in
Islam, when you yourself posted my site in your links section before and then removed it?
Tell us Shahid, since you're the man with maturity and integrity here, why did you link an ignorant's and arrogant person's web site to your site?
Any frequent reader to my site would know that I did not change anything on my site that would prompt you to change your views about me so dramatically!
Again, I would like to remind the reader that Shahid has absolutely no regard to Islam's
manners, and to Noble Verse 16:125 in particular. Look at his language and
insults. He is really a big embarrassment. Anyway, here is the Noble Verse
again:
"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: For thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance. (The Noble Quran, 16:125)"
Do us all a favor Shahid, visit: www.answering-christianity.com/good_manners.htm and learn about Islamic manners and the proper way to be a Muslim, because you are a big disgrace to Islam and to all Muslims!
He wrote:
Recently Murtadd Osama Abdallah wrote
to Jochan Katz about Noorullah
Website and my website and me that I quote:
My response:
Before I let you continue, care to tell us why you call Osama Abdallah as "Murtadd Osama Abdallah"? For the reader, the word "Murtadd" means "apostate" in Arabic.
Why is Osama Abdallah an apostate to you? What proofs do you have for this claim? Or is it just another childish insult from you to your opponent?
He wrote:
“If some closed-minded Muslims will show objection to my views, then oh well, that's their problem. But let me assure you that I receive tons of encouraging emails almost every day from my Muslim and (believe it or not) non-Muslim fans. So, Osama Abdallah doesn't really care about anyone's recognition, because I know what my standards are and my readers also know them as well.
If this is your way
to cover your utter failure to respond to my web site, by presenting few irrelevant
views from one or two Muslims having negative views about my site and giving general
remarks without giving solid proofs, then this is a proof that you are desperate and
are losing the battle Mr. Katz, even though to me there is really no battle between me and
you.”
This is not the beginning, behind the scene after using brother Hesham Azmy and me; Murtadd Osama Abdallah has been spewing his Kufr and misguided belief without presenting the source of it.
My response:
Again, to the reader, the word "Kufr" means "blasphemy" or "apostasy". Again, where and when did Osama Abdallah desert Islam?
He wrote:
Let me quote Murtadd Osama Abdallah that will enable
Muslims and non-Muslims and how sick and arrogant this person is:
Thank you very much brother
NooruAllah for the change. Believe me, I am a "present and future" person,
and not a "past" person as this ridiculous ummah is today.
If it wasn't for the sunnis and shias blowing themselves up into pieces for the sake of
the 4 Caliphs, I would not have even wrote about them; with all my respect due to them.
The reason for this is becasue they are only history and past. We can learn
from them, and wish them Mercy and Blessings, but OUR LIVES MUST NEVER REVOLVE AROUND
THEM!
Our lives must always revolve around Islam and Jihad; even the Jihad through the Noble
Quran (the peaceful Jihad).....http://www.answering-christianity.com/peaceful_jihad.htm
And by the way, I am neither "sunni" or "shia". While my entire
life style and beliefs tilt toward what YOU call "sunnis", but I prefer to call
myself "Muslim"; the kind of Muslim that existed before Muhammad peace be upon
him.
I am the Hawariyyeen (Jesus' disciples) Muslim, and Abraham Muslim; peace be upon them; as
they were called "Muslims" in the Noble Quran, and they all existed before
Muhammad peace be upon him.....www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm.
And always remember, Muhammad ended Islam and didn't start it. Therefore, boxing
Islam into the pathetic box of sunnis and shias is utter failure and ignorance that needs
to be changed, because Islam is far greater than this.
Anyway, Allah Almighty did promise that he was going to produce a Muslim "Dabba"
(very strong man) that will teach the Truth toward the End of Times. My personal
interpretation of this Noble Verse is either the "Mahdi" or "Jesus"
peace be upon them both. Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/beast_in_quran.htm
I know that some might disagree with my interpretation about the "beast" (Dabba)
being "Jesus". But regardless of whom ever he is, THE POINT IS: THIS
FUTURE MAN WILL COME AND FIX THIS RIDICULOUS UMMAH AND ITS "DEVIANT" SECTS THAT
EXIST TODAY.
One last point, Prophet Muhammad said that this Ummah will be divided into 73 sects, and
72 will go to Hell. I personally belong to the "no group" group who don't
belong to any sect and only call themselves Muslims and follow the Noble Quran and the
Sunnah that ONLY agrees with the Noble Quran.
These are my beliefs. You are welcomed to accept them or reject them.
Notice, arrogance, disbelief and attack on Ummah, not to
mention a reckless demonstration of ignorance by citing {“Anyway, Allah Almighty did promise that he was going to produce a
Muslim "Dabba" (very strong man) that will teach the Truth toward the End of
Times. My personal interpretation of this Noble Verse is either the
"Mahdi" or "Jesus" peace be upon them both. Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/beast_in_quran.htm”}
My response:
So, I am a "murtadd" (apostate)
to you because I attacked the current situation of the Muslim nations of today? What
do my views about the political and economical situation of the Muslim world have anything
to do with my personal beliefs in Islam and in the Oneness of Allah Almighty?!
Again, where did I show that I am an apostate?
Also, how am I an arrogant person when I criticized the Muslim nations of today?
Aren't most of them ruled by dictators? Isn't the Muslim world's oil and other rich
resources all controlled by the West? Isn't the Muslim world today filled with
hypocrites?
Where exactly did I show arrogance?
To the reader, please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/muslim_hypocrites.htm
What is the definition of a hypocrite in Islam? And will all "Muslims" make it to Heaven?
Also, please visit: The corruptions and infidel dictatorships in the Muslim world today were prophesized by Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
Prophet Muhammad predicted the coming of the "dictators" and bad leaders.
As to my "ignorance", please spare us from your childish remarks and attitude,
because so far, you have presented nothing but ridiculous absurdity and lack of proofs.
I do want the reader to read my article at: www.answering-christianity.com/beast_in_quran.htm.
Let the reader decide for themselves on whether or not Osama Abdallah is ignorant
or not.
By the way Shahid, saying this humbly, I have literally THOUSANDS of fans who love me and love my web site. I receive tons of positive emails almost everyday from Muslims. I used to gather some of the short and easy to paste emails at: www.answering-christianity.com/emails.htm. But since it became too much of a work to maintain, I stopped. But in this link, you'll find lots of encouraging emails thanking me for my hard work.
I am glad that I did create this article, because there is always jealous and phony people such as yourself who would throw cheap criticism without giving solid proofs. This link is a clear refutation to your absurdity.
He wrote:
This absurdity and ignorance of Osama
Abdallah was immediately refuted by me Jesus is NOT the beast in
Glorious Qur’aan, as FALSELY claimed by Osama Abdallah
that has Osama has conveniently dodged and failed to prove me wrong. There I challenge
pseudo-Muslim Osama Abdallah to prove me wrong on this beside all of what I have authored
about him and/or my refutations. I demand that Murtadd Osama Abdallah make his bite as
bad as his bark is? (he has sent me these threat many times before, the following shows Osama’s propensity to stoop lower than anyone else
and resort the issue with blackmail and extortion).
My response:
Shahid, you think just because you presented a response, that you actually presented a refutation. I do invite the reader to read my article and yours and see for themselves where exactly you refuted me:
www.answering-christianity.com/beast_in_quran.htm (mine)
http://www.geocities.com/sbwus/Beast.htm (yours)
Also Shahid, just because I never responded to you, it doesn't make me weak or prove that you have won the argument. I don't choose to reply to childish people and waste time on them. I will only be satisfied to give brief responses to you, because it is easy for the reader to see how much of a joker and ludicrous person you truly are.
He wrote:
Osama:
Also Shahid, I sense from your email that you are somehow
threatening me to go back and call me a "murtad". Well I don't like to
jump to conclusions, but I promise you, if you ever do, I will not only remove all of your
work from my site for good, but I will also create a section dedicated for you and make
you look like a total clown.
My response:
Again, where is your proof that I am a "Murtadd" or apostate? You have so far utterly failed to provide that proof! Also, as to making my bite as bad as my bark, even though I don't usually get into this type of childish argument, but I will still beat you in it:
Well, "Osama" in Arabic is one
of the lion's five names: Layth, Osama, Hamza, Asad and Qais.
Lions don't bark. Lions roar and bite. And this article alone gave you the
bite from the lion's jaws, because I have easily proved that you are nothing but a total
joke! All you did above was provide childish remarks and attitude. You say
words that are bigger than you, such as "Murtadd", and you probably don't even
know what the word really means.
Also Shahid, you need not to bark at every article I write to prove your point. Just
because you disagree with someone, it doesn't make 100% of their work wrong.
Again, you are very irresponsible and a big goofy hypocrite, because just a month ago, you
had my web site in your "links section", and now I am the biggest idiot of all.
You are indeed ludicrous!
He wrote:
Let me say one more thing about Jochan and yours fantasy
of large audience blah blah blah, attracting ignorant and/or naïve is not a big deal, it
happens all the time in this world. If you can get out from your sewer you will
learn that there is another world above you all that is called learned individuals who
don’t fall neither of you (both). Here is a list that I expect pseudo-Muslim Osama
Abdallah to refute:
A Questionable
Trend: Glorious Qur’aan is a Book of Guidance NOT Science.
More can be found here.
My response:
So now, you're calling my fans as
"ignorant and/or naive". You are not only a childish person, but you're
also very rude!! So tell us Shahid, my fans who are sincere Muslims and honest Truth
Seekers are ignorant and naive for reading my articles, and on the other hand, you're the
intelligent who utterly failed to provide any proof to his absurdity above?!
I have seen stupid people before, but never like you!
I think we all must ask Shahid this simple question: Are my Muslim fans also
"Murtadds" (apostates)? It wouldn't surprise me to hear it from a stupid
joker like you!
He wrote:
Osama, copying and pasting English
translation is easy a five years old kid can do as good as you do that. Let us see how
correct your aqeedah is and how much real knowledge and education of Islaam you do have? Keeping
others’ material at your website does not make you a scholar. You are like
that dog who was walking under a cart and was thinking that he is pulling that cart.
We are waiting for your admission that you have converted to submitters’ cult.
My response:
As of today, Wednesday, 11/12/2003, my web site has around 901 articles. 80% of them were written by me personally over the past 4 years. It is none of your business that other brothers and sisters had either directly contributed to my site, or me preserving their work by uploading their articles to my site. As the reader might know, most of the articles that reside on geocities.com and angelfire.com and others do disappear in a year or two. If I see a really good article, then I take the liberty to upload it to my site, without changing its contents, and I always give the URL as a reference. Most of the articles contain email addresses and references to their original home pages. I always keep those references as well.
I never deprived any person from giving credit to their work. I am not a thief. If I knew that the articles I upload will not vanish someday on the internet, then I wouldn't go through the agony of uploading them. I would simply link to them directly.
But despite all of this, more than 80% of my web site's articles were written directly by me.
You said: "We are waiting for your admission that you have converted to submitters' cult". Well, I have a whole section refuting the submitters' cult. Also again, you have utterly failed to show your reader where Osama Abdallah deserted Islam and became an apostate (murtadd).
Don't you think that you owe it to your reader to give that proof? Otherwise, wouldn't you be equivalent to a liar and a deceiver?
Conclusion:
Shahid is so fond on using childish name callings and insults. He used the word "bark" many times. After reading this article, I am certain that the reader will clearly see that the only person who is doing the barking and "brain farting" is Shahid bin Waheed himself.
He is definitely a deviant person who is very contradicting and disrespecting to Islam itself and its Laws. Shahid clearly showed above that he has no regard to Islam. He only has regard to his personal egos. That is why he insults a lot, despite the fact that Allah Almighty prohibited it in the Noble Quran as I showed above.
So, is Shahid worth responding to after reading this article? Absolutely not.
After seeing Shahid's insults and childish manners, I have decided to remove all of his articles from my web site for good. Frankly, the only reason I kept them was to not deprive him from the Good Deeds that Allah Almighty is recording for him above. My web site will not lose any quality without his articles. In fact, it might even gain a lot of quality, because it would have a whole a lot lesser offensive articles in it. Obviously Shahid is not worth respecting. Ignoring him is the best solution. Therefore Shahid, we'll keep the barking for you.
Back to rebuttals to Shahid's articles.
My rebuttals, and exposing the lies of the Answering Islam team section.
What is the definition of a hypocrite in Islam? And will all "Muslims" make it to Heaven?