Rebuttal to Craig Winn "Prophet of Doom: Chapter 6" article:
This article is a rebuttal to Craig Winn's article that is located at: http://www.prophetofdoom.net/chapter6.html.
Important Note to the Reader:
Craig Winn purposely twisted and modified the English translations that he used! He changes words in translations and uses non-Muslim ones. I've noticed this a lot through his translations of the Noble Verses that he used from the Noble Quran.
Please visit:
List of Craig Winn's fabricated lies and deliberate alteration of quotes, WITH CLEAR-CUT PROOFS!
Before we get into the detailed rebuttal of this article, let's look at the following from his Bible:
Aisha in Islam: Let's discuss the age of Aisha being 9 when she married our Prophet (CLICK HERE): 1- See proofs, in the "Aisha being 9" article, from the Bible about little girls as young as 9 were married off and even sold off by their fathers as slave girls to men who were even older than their fathers. 2- See also irrefutable proofs that pedophilia and terrorism exist in the Bible. During the Mosaic times in the Bible's Old Testament, 3-year old slave girls were literally forced into sex under Moses' Orders and Command. You sometimes have to read things twice to believe them! See also: Maiming of the enemies' bodies in the Bible. Cutting the hands and feet of the enemies in the Bible, and hanging their live bodies on trees until they DIE. *** Killing of innocent children in the Bible. *** X-Rated Pornography in the Bible. *** Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.
Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries. Also visit: Why Muta (temporary) Marriage was allowed and why it was discontinued. |
Having said all of that, let us now proceed:
He wrote:
CHAPTER 6
HEART OF DARKNESS
I fear that a demon has possessed him.
Its time I share something disturbing about the five holy books we are using to expose Muhammad, Allah, and Islam. They were not contemporaneous writings. Muslims say that Islam, unlike Judeo-Christianity, was played out in the light of recorded history but the opposite is true. The prophets and patriarchs of the Bible were lettered, and their contemporaries were literate. Their written scrolls encountered an educated audience of voracious readers within a generation of the events they described.
My response:
The authors of the books and gospels of your pornful bible; the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", were not even known! Let alone them being anointed by GOD Almighty. Let's see the crystal clear proof from your own resources:
From www.answering-christianity.com/sake.htm:
Who were the authors of the Bible? Were they really the original Prophets and Disciples?
So, who then are the authors of the books of the Bible? Obviously the Church must know them very well since they are popularly believed to have received divine inspiration from God Himself. Right? Actually, they don't. For example, we will note that every Gospel begins with the introduction "According to....." such as "The Gospel according to Saint Matthew," "The Gospel according to Saint Luke," "The Gospel according to Saint Mark," "The Gospel according to Saint John." The obvious conclusion for the average man on the street is that these people are known to be the authors of the books attributed to them. This, however is not the case. Why? Because not one of the vaunted four thousand copies existent carries its author's signature. It has just been assumed that certain people were the authors. Recent discoveries, however, refute this belief. Even the internal evidence suggests that, for instance, Matthew did not write the Gospel attributed to him:
"...And as Jesus passed forth thence, HE (Jesus) saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and HE (Jesus) saith unto HIM (Matthew), follow ME (Jesus) and HE (Matthew) arose, and followed HIM (Jesus). (Matthew 9:9)"
Did "Matthew" write this about himself? Why then didn't Matthew write for example: "he (Jesus) saw ME, and my name is Matthew. I was sitting at the receipt of custom " etc.
Such evidence can be found in many places throughout the New Testament. Granted, it may be possible that an author sometimes may write in the third person, still, in light of the rest of the evidence that we shall see throughout this book, there is simply too much evidence against this hypothesis.
This observation is by no means limited to the New Testament. There is even similar evidence that at least parts of Deuteronomy were not written by their claimed author, prophet Moses . This can be seen in Deuteronomy 34:5-10 where we read
"So Moses....DIED... and he (God Almighty) BURIED HIM (Moses)... He was 120 years old WHEN HE DIED... and there arose not a prophet SINCE in Israel like unto Moses....(Deuteronomy 34:5-10)"
Did Moses write his own obituary? Similarly, Joshua too speaks in detail about his own death in Joshua 24:29-33.
"And it came to pass after these things, that Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of the Lord, DIED, And they BURIED HIM And Israel served the Lord all the days of Joshua, and all the days of the elders that overlived Joshua, and which had known all the works of the Lord, that he had done for Israel .(Joshua 24:29-33)"
Such evidence is part of the large cache which has driven the Biblical scholars to come to the current recognition that most of the books of the Bible were not written by their supposed authors. For example, the authors of the Revised Standard Version of the Bible by Collins honestly say that the author of "Kings" is "Unknown." But if the author is unknown then why attribute it to God? How can it then be claimed to have been "inspired"? Continuing, we read that the book of Isaiah is "Mainly credited to Isaiah. Parts may have been written by others." Ecclesiastics: "Author. Doubtful, but commonly assigned to Solomon." Ruth: "Author. Not definitely known, perhaps Samuel." and on and on.
Let us have a slightly more detailed look at only one book of the New Testament, that of 'Hebrews':
"The author of the Book of Hebrews is unknown. Martin Luther suggested that Apollos was the author...Tertullian said that Hebrews was a letter of Barnabas...Adolf Harnack and J. Rendel Harris speculated that it was written by Priscilla (or Prisca). William Ramsey suggested that it was done by Philip. However, the traditional position is that the Apostle Paul wrote Hebrews...Eusebius believed that Paul wrote it, but Origen was not positive of Pauline authorship."
From the introduction to the King James Bible, New revised and updated sixth edition, the Hebrew/Greek Key Study, Red Letter Edition
and one book of the Old Testament:
"In tradition, [David] is credited with writing 73 of the Psalms; most scholars, however, consider this claim questionable."
Encarta Encyclopedia, under "David"
Is this how we define "inspired by God"?
I asked a reverand of the local church in my neighboorhod, on what gospel most often quoted and used, he quickly answered, the Gospel of St. John!
Let us examine the Contextual Problems of the Gospel of John - Highly Recommended!
End of article.
Also, consider the following few examples that consist of historical
contradictions in the Bible:
II Samuel 10:18 talks about David slew the men of 700
chariots of the Syrians and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander.
I Chronicles 1:18 says that David slew the men of 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen
I Chronicles 9:25 says that Solomon had 4000 stalls for
horses and chariots.
I Kings 4:26 says that he had 40,000 stalls for horses
Ezra 2:5 talks about an exile Arah having 775 sons.
Nehemiah 7:10 talks about the same exile Arah having 652 sons.
II Samuel 24:13 So God came to David, and told him, and said unto
him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three
months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
I Chronicles 21:11 SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose
thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destryed before thy foes, while
that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;
How did Judas die?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and
hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed
out." (Acts 1:18)
2 Samuel 6:23 Therefore MICHAL the daughter of Saul had no child
unto the day of her death.
2 Samuel 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare
unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of MICHAL the daughter of Saul, whom
she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite.
2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to
reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the
daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.
2 Chronicles 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned
three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the
LORD.
26th year of the reign of Asa I Kings 16:6-8
36th year of the reign of Asa I 2 Chronicles 16:1
How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
22 in 2 Kings 8:26
42 in 2 Chronicle 22:2
Who was Josiah's successor?
Jehoahaz - 2 Chronicle 36:1
Shallum - Jeremiah 22:11
Also, your original scriptures are all doubtful according to the Bible's own theologians and historians. It's quite hilarious that even the Bible itself admits that it has been tampered with and corrupted by man's garbage:
"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'?
But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.
(From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
And regarding who wrote the books and gospels of the Bible, well here is a sample of what the NIV Bible's theologians and historians wrote:
"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark. They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark. His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost. (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"
"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1643)"
"The writer of this letter does not identify himself, but he was obviously well known to the original recipients. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1856)"
"The letter is difficult to date with precision....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)"
"It seems safe to conclude that the book, at least in its early form, dates from the beginning of the monarchy. Some think that Samuel may have had a hand in shaping or compiling the materials of the book, but in fact we are unsure who the final author or editor was. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 286)"
"Although, according to tradition, Samuel wrote the book, authorship is actually uncertain. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"
"The date of the composition is also unknown, but it was undoubtedly during the monarchy. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"
"The author is unknown. Jewish tradition points to Samuel, but it is unlikely that he is the author because the mention of David (4:17,22) implies a later date. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 360)"
"Who the author was cannot be known with certainty since the book itself gives no indication of his identity. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 368)"
"There is little conclusive evidence as to the identity of the author of 1,2 Kings. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"
"Whoever the author was, it is clear that he was familiar with the book of Deuteronomy. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"
"According to ancient Jewish tradition, Ezra wrote Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (see Introduction to Ezra: Literary Form and Authorship), but this cannot be established with certainty. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 569)"
"Although we do not know who wrote the book of Esther, from internal evidence it is possible to make some inferences about the author and the date of composition. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 707)"
"The unknown author probably had access to oral and/or written sources....(From the NIV Bible commentary, page 722)"
"Regarding authorship, opinions are even more divided....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 773)"
etc...
How do you respond to this?
Please visit: Just who were the original authors of the Bible?
to see the book's bibliography to the above quotes.
Also, why don't you visit: Contradictions and proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible, and see exactly what I mean, instead of acting like a total fool and saying things that even the Bible refutes in it!
It is quite obvious that Christians today believe in third party authors' words as the words of GOD. This is a very serious corruption in the Bible that must be taken into deep consideration by the Bible's followers. Please visit "Is the Bible the true word of GOD?" to see a full and complete paper about the logical corruptions in the Bible, along with many Christian famous priests and ministers opinions that agree with the Bible's corruption. I have their personal quotes in that site.
Also, as to the parts of the Bible that Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, please
visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
After that, please visit: Prophet Muhammad was foretold in many places in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.
He wrote:
The Islamic scripture, however, was all based upon long lines of oral tradition. No copy of the Quran dated to within a hundred years of the prophets death survives.
My response:
Where did you get your utter nonsense and lies from?! Where is the evidence for all of these baseless and worthless claims?! The Noble Quran was documented on paper on the spot! It was also memorized by Prophet Muhammad's close companions. Not only that, but many parts of the Noble Quran get recited during the Muslims' five-daily prayers. And last but not least, the Muslims, especially during Prophet Muhammad's times, recite the entire Noble Quran during the Holy Month of Ramadan. The Noble Quran did not get documented 100 years after our Prophet peace be upon him. Allah Almighty said:
"Say: "What thing is most weighty in evidence?" Say: "God is witness between me and you; This Quran hath been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can ye possibly bear witness that besides God there is another God?" Say: "Nay! I cannot bear witness!" Say: "But in truth He is the one God, and I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with Him." (The Noble Quran, 6:19)"
"When the Quran is read, listen to it with attention, and hold your peace: that ye may receive Mercy. (The Noble Quran, 7:204)"
"This Quran is not such as can be produced by other than God; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds. (The Noble Quran, 10:37)"
"Verily this Quran doth guide to that which is most right (or stable), and giveth the Glad Tidings to the Believers who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a magnificent reward; (The Noble Quran, 17:9)"
"When thou dost recite the Quran, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible: (The Noble Quran, 17:45)"
"Verily in this (Quran) is a Message for people who would (truly) worship God. (The Noble Quran, 21:106)"
"Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Quran). (The Noble Quran, 25:52)"
The Noble Quran was sent in stages to the Prophet,
and the Prophet was inspired the chronological order of the Noble Verses and Chapters:
"We send down (stage by stage) in the Quran that which is a healing and a mercy to those who believe: to the unjust it causes nothing but loss after loss. (The Noble Quran, 17:82)"
"(It is) a Quran which We have divided (into parts from time to time), in order that thou mightest recite it to men at intervals: We have revealed it by stages. (The Noble Quran, 17:106)"
"And thus have We, by Our Command, sent inspiration to thee: thou knewest not (before) what was Revelation, and what was Faith; but We have made the (Quran) a Light, wherewith We guide such of Our servants as We will; and verily thou dost guide (men) to the Straight Way,- (The Noble Quran, 42:52)"
"High above all is God, the King, the Truth! Be not in haste with the Quran before its revelation to thee is completed, but say, "O my Lord! advance me in knowledge." (The Noble Quran, 20:114)"
"Those who reject Faith say: "Why is not the Quran revealed to him all at once? Thus (is it revealed), that We may strengthen thy heart thereby, and We have rehearsed it to thee in slow, well-arranged stages, gradually. (The Noble Quran, 25:32)"
To the reader, please visit: History of the Noble Quran's Preservation and Compilation.
He wrote:
The oldest Hadith manuscript is two hundred years removed from the events it chronicles. Islams dark past is addressed at length in the Source Material appendix.
My response:
To the reader, notice this liar's tricks and deceptions. He tried in a slick move to mix the hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad) with the Noble Quran. While it is true that the hadiths were documented literally 100s of years after the death of our Prophet as I will prove shortly, but the Noble Quran as I proved above, especially in the link of the Noble Quran's History of Preservation and Compilation, was documented and memorized on the spot.
As to the hadiths, throughout my previous rebuttals, I've said all along that the hadiths were corrupt. You have mentioned nothing new. On the contrary, this debunks your points and purpose about quoting from the Al-Tabari and Ishaq throughout your entire book as if the quotes were as reliable as the Noble Quran itself.
The hadiths were literally documented 100s of years after the Prophet's, peace be upon him, death. Not everything you read is accurate and was necessarily told by the Prophet word for word, or even if at all! It is important, if you wish to be objective and honest, to put the Noble Quran as the center for any Islamic argument. If the Noble Quran makes a claim, then it is definitely agreed upon by all Muslims, and it is perfectly authentic. Otherwise, GOD Almighty only Knows about what is true and what is false regarding the narrations that you use in Hadiths and Sunnah books.
The "Sahih Bukhari" or "Authentic Bukhari" in English was the first volume to be compiled. Bukhari is not an Arabic name! Bukhari is derived from the word "Bukhara", which is a city in Afghanistan:
"We now come to the Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story. It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara......." (www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm)
For anyone who knows the Islamic history, this means that the Muslims spread Islam to the pagan Arabs, established the Islamic State in Arabia, then fought the Persians (Iranians) and the Romans; invaded the Persians and crushed the Romans, then fought the Hindus in Hindustan, invaded much of their lands such as "Pakistan", "Afghanistan", and much of the Indian territories, convert people there to Islam, and then Brother Bukhari appeared from his home town, Bukhara and decided to compile the Hadiths of "Sahih Bukhari".
Are these narrations all 100% perfect and reliable? Any person with the least atom of a brain would say no. I am not saying that all of the Hadiths must be rejected. But for us to day to have close to 2,000,000 of them is quite ridiculous, because they can't all have been written down during our Prophet's times in Arabia. Most of the Hadiths' chains of narrations today have 10s of narrators in them. In the Hadith books, you would see something like the following:
"About such and such, that he heard his father say that such and such said, that he heard such and such say, that he heard such and such say, etc...." Most of the narrations' links have tons of narrators in them, many times more than 10, and these people would be generations after each others! In other words, they're not people at the same age or the same group. And the worst dilemma of all, is that many of these chain of narrations have broken links in them, meaning, that two or three generations are missing in the chain!
Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic. Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death. Their narrations were orally transmitted by others. Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:
"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam). (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"
Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:
From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:
Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:
In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum. It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words! The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word. In Arabic, a word is not original. There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention. This can change the entire meaning of the whole word and sentence.
That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.
Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.
For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful. I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies. But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous! Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration. I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.
That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the
Truth and reject the others.
Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all
written during the Prophet's time. Some or even many of them were probably written
down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I
was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly
all written during the Prophet's time.
I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....
Example about my own name to simplify things:
Take "Osama" for example. First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent. The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama". Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato". The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.
When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising. Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual. I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.
THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".
To the reader, please visit: What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe
are closest to the Truth, and Why?
He wrote:
Muslim Traditions allege that the Quran first became a book at the direction of Abu Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, during the War of Compulsion.
My response:
There was no war EVER in Islam's history called the "war of Compulsion". I don't know where you get your garbage from?! In fact Mr. liar, Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran clearly and directly exposes your lie to your reader:
"Let there be no compulsion (forcing others) in religion: Truth stands out clear from error...(The Noble Quran, 2:256)"
The "War of Compulsion"! Ridiculous indeed! Of course, Craig Winn thinks very low of his non-Muslim Western readers' knowledge and intellect, who only know little about Islam. He thinks his lies will survive with them.
He wrote:
We are told that the first Caliph feared that Muhammads divine revelations would
be lost because most of the best reciters had become warriors. According to a
lone Hadith, Umar, the second Caliph, convinced Bakr that something had to be done. The
fleeting memories of Jihad fighters were the sole repositories of the Quran, and
they were being killed at an alarming rate. The loss of most or all of Muhammads
revelation was imminent. Legend has it that Zaid, a native of Medina and one
of the prophets helpers, was assigned the task. He
gathered together the fragments of the Quran from every quarter, from date
leaves, bones, stone, and from the breasts of men.
My response:
Where is your proof to the quote above, and to all of out-of-context things you mentioned? While it is true that the Noble Quran was COMPILED and not written (because it was already written) after the Prophet, peace be upon him, but Muslims never had any disputes regarding the quantity of the Noble Verses and their validities, because the Noble Quran was carefully documented and memorized during Prophet Muhammad's times.
He wrote:
According to J. M. Rodwell, one of the early Quran translators, Zaid and his coadjutors did not arrange the materials which came to them with any system more definite than that of placing the longest and best known surahs first. Anything approaching a chronological arrangement was entirely ignored. Late Medina surahs were often placed before early Meccan ones; the short surahs at the end of the Quran were its earliest portions; while verses of Meccan origin were embedded in Medina surahs, and verses promulgated at Medina were scattered up and down in the Meccan surahs.
My response:
J.M. Rodwell is a non-Muslim. How can his quote be fair? Plus, like you, where did he get his nonsense from? You can always quote another clown like you who wrote a book and claim that it is the Truth, because it exists in some book. This deception doesn't work. Your Western readers are not as stupid as you think they are.
And to the Western reader, please visit: History of the Noble Quran's Preservation and Compilation, to learn the Truth about the Noble Quran's validity and authenticity from true Islamic resources and history, and not from clowns and liars like Craig Winn and his likes.
He wrote:
Muslim scholars dont dispute Rodwells claim. And thats alarming, because it means that no one was able to discern when a surah was revealed. No one even knew what comprised a surah. They were jumbled together gobbledygook, completely out of order. And if Muhammads contemporaries were this confused, there is no chance they actually remembered the detail of what he claimed was disseminated by the almighty.
My response:
Oh really? And who are those "Muslim scholars"? Are they non-Muslim clowns like you and Rodwell? If not, then who are they? Is this too much to ask a clown and a liar like you to produce?
He wrote:
Rodwell continues his analysis with these words: It would seem
as if Zaid put his materials together just as they came to him, and often with entire
disregard to continuity of subject and uniformity of style. The text, therefore, assumes
the form of a most unreadable and incongruous patchwork, and conveys no idea whatever of
the development and growth of any plan in the mind of the founder of Islam, or of the
circumstances by which he was surrounded and influenced. Then after praising Zaid
for his lack of tampering Rodwell adds that it is deeply regrettable
that no contemporary provided any historical reference, suppressed contradictory verses,
or excluded inaccurate statements.
Therefore, even in the best possible light, the Quran as first
assembled was a mess. It was out of order, jumbled together, contradictory, and
inaccurate. Yet there is no proof that even this best-case scenario is reliable. There is
no corroborating evidence that the revelations actually became a book under
Bakr, Umar, or Zaid. There are no fragments or tablets.
My response:
This is utter nonsense, because the Noble Quran order was determined by Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, and the Noble Chapters and Verses were all memorized as the Noble Quran was Revealed. Again, the Noble Quran was documented on paper on the spot! It was also memorized by Prophet Muhammad's close companions. Not only that, but many parts of the Noble Quran get recited during the Muslims' five-daily prayers. And last but not least, the Muslims, especially during Prophet Muhammad's times, recite the entire Noble Quran during the Holy Month of Ramadan. Allah Almighty said:
"Say: "What thing is most weighty in evidence?" Say: "God is witness between me and you; This Quran hath been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can ye possibly bear witness that besides God there is another God?" Say: "Nay! I cannot bear witness!" Say: "But in truth He is the one God, and I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with Him." (The Noble Quran, 6:19)"
"When the Quran is read, listen to it with attention, and hold your peace: that ye may receive Mercy. (The Noble Quran, 7:204)"
"This Quran is not such as can be produced by other than God; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds. (The Noble Quran, 10:37)"
"Verily this Quran doth guide to that which is most right (or stable), and giveth the Glad Tidings to the Believers who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a magnificent reward; (The Noble Quran, 17:9)"
"When thou dost recite the Quran, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible: (The Noble Quran, 17:45)"
"Verily in this (Quran) is a Message for people who would (truly) worship God. (The Noble Quran, 21:106)"
"Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Quran). (The Noble Quran, 25:52)"
The Noble Quran was sent in stages to the Prophet,
and the Prophet was inspired the chronological order of the Noble Verses and Chapters:
"We send down (stage by stage) in the Quran that which is a healing and a mercy to those who believe: to the unjust it causes nothing but loss after loss. (The Noble Quran, 17:82)"
"(It is) a Quran which We have divided (into parts from time to time), in order that thou mightest recite it to men at intervals: We have revealed it by stages. (The Noble Quran, 17:106)"
"And thus have We, by Our Command, sent inspiration to thee: thou knewest not (before) what was Revelation, and what was Faith; but We have made the (Quran) a Light, wherewith We guide such of Our servants as We will; and verily thou dost guide (men) to the Straight Way,- (The Noble Quran, 42:52)"
"High above all is God, the King, the Truth! Be not in haste with the Quran before its revelation to thee is completed, but say, "O my Lord! advance me in knowledge." (The Noble Quran, 20:114)"
"Those who reject Faith say: "Why is not the Quran revealed to him all at once? Thus (is it revealed), that We may strengthen thy heart thereby, and We have rehearsed it to thee in slow, well-arranged stages, gradually. (The Noble Quran, 25:32)"
To the reader, please visit: History of the Noble Quran's Preservation and Compilation.
He wrote:
All we have is a flimsy oral tradition suggesting that this best-case scenario occurred. There isnt even a letter or a historical reference from any of the literate nations conquered by the first Muslim warriors to suggest that the Quran existed.
My response:
You are a total joke! Again, giving ridiculous statements without backing them up with any reliable historical account. To the reader, again, please visit: History of the Noble Quran's Preservation and Compilation.
He wrote:
By contrast, there are 25,000 ancient Bible parchments, scrolls, fragments, and letters testifying to the immediacy and accuracy of todays Judeo-Christian scriptures.
My response:
Let us see how accurate your pornful bible; the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", really is:
From www.answering-christianity.com/sake.htm:
Who were the authors of the Bible? Were they really the original Prophets and Disciples?
So, who then are the authors of the books of the Bible? Obviously the Church must know them very well since they are popularly believed to have received divine inspiration from God Himself. Right? Actually, they don't. For example, we will note that every Gospel begins with the introduction "According to....." such as "The Gospel according to Saint Matthew," "The Gospel according to Saint Luke," "The Gospel according to Saint Mark," "The Gospel according to Saint John." The obvious conclusion for the average man on the street is that these people are known to be the authors of the books attributed to them. This, however is not the case. Why? Because not one of the vaunted four thousand copies existent carries its author's signature. It has just been assumed that certain people were the authors. Recent discoveries, however, refute this belief. Even the internal evidence suggests that, for instance, Matthew did not write the Gospel attributed to him:
"...And as Jesus passed forth thence, HE (Jesus) saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and HE (Jesus) saith unto HIM (Matthew), follow ME (Jesus) and HE (Matthew) arose, and followed HIM (Jesus). (Matthew 9:9)"
Did "Matthew" write this about himself? Why then didn't Matthew write for example: "he (Jesus) saw ME, and my name is Matthew. I was sitting at the receipt of custom " etc.
Such evidence can be found in many places throughout the New Testament. Granted, it may be possible that an author sometimes may write in the third person, still, in light of the rest of the evidence that we shall see throughout this book, there is simply too much evidence against this hypothesis.
This observation is by no means limited to the New Testament. There is even similar evidence that at least parts of Deuteronomy were not written by their claimed author, prophet Moses . This can be seen in Deuteronomy 34:5-10 where we read
"So Moses....DIED... and he (God Almighty) BURIED HIM (Moses)... He was 120 years old WHEN HE DIED... and there arose not a prophet SINCE in Israel like unto Moses....(Deuteronomy 34:5-10)"
Did Moses write his own obituary? Similarly, Joshua too speaks in detail about his own death in Joshua 24:29-33.
"And it came to pass after these things, that Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of the Lord, DIED, And they BURIED HIM And Israel served the Lord all the days of Joshua, and all the days of the elders that overlived Joshua, and which had known all the works of the Lord, that he had done for Israel .(Joshua 24:29-33)"
Such evidence is part of the large cache which has driven the Biblical scholars to come to the current recognition that most of the books of the Bible were not written by their supposed authors. For example, the authors of the Revised Standard Version of the Bible by Collins honestly say that the author of "Kings" is "Unknown." But if the author is unknown then why attribute it to God? How can it then be claimed to have been "inspired"? Continuing, we read that the book of Isaiah is "Mainly credited to Isaiah. Parts may have been written by others." Ecclesiastics: "Author. Doubtful, but commonly assigned to Solomon." Ruth: "Author. Not definitely known, perhaps Samuel." and on and on.
Let us have a slightly more detailed look at only one book of the New Testament, that of 'Hebrews':
"The author of the Book of Hebrews is unknown. Martin Luther suggested that Apollos was the author...Tertullian said that Hebrews was a letter of Barnabas...Adolf Harnack and J. Rendel Harris speculated that it was written by Priscilla (or Prisca). William Ramsey suggested that it was done by Philip. However, the traditional position is that the Apostle Paul wrote Hebrews...Eusebius believed that Paul wrote it, but Origen was not positive of Pauline authorship."
From the introduction to the King James Bible, New revised and updated sixth edition, the Hebrew/Greek Key Study, Red Letter Edition
and one book of the Old Testament:
"In tradition, [David] is credited with writing 73 of the Psalms; most scholars, however, consider this claim questionable."
Encarta Encyclopedia, under "David"
Is this how we define "inspired by God"?
I asked a reverand of the local church in my neighboorhod, on what gospel most often quoted and used, he quickly answered, the Gospel of St. John!
Let us examine the Contextual Problems of the Gospel of John - Highly Recommended!
End of article.
Also, consider the following few examples that consist of historical
contradictions in the Bible:
II Samuel 10:18 talks about David slew the men of 700
chariots of the Syrians and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander.
I Chronicles 1:18 says that David slew the men of 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen
I Chronicles 9:25 says that Solomon had 4000 stalls for
horses and chariots.
I Kings 4:26 says that he had 40,000 stalls for horses
Ezra 2:5 talks about an exile Arah having 775 sons.
Nehemiah 7:10 talks about the same exile Arah having 652 sons.
II Samuel 24:13 So God came to David, and told him, and said unto
him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three
months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
I Chronicles 21:11 SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose
thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destryed before thy foes, while
that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;
How did Judas die?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and
hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed
out." (Acts 1:18)
2 Samuel 6:23 Therefore MICHAL the daughter of Saul had no child
unto the day of her death.
2 Samuel 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare
unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of MICHAL the daughter of Saul, whom
she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite.
2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to
reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the
daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.
2 Chronicles 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned
three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the
LORD.
26th year of the reign of Asa I Kings 16:6-8
36th year of the reign of Asa I 2 Chronicles 16:1
How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
22 in 2 Kings 8:26
42 in 2 Chronicle 22:2
Who was Josiah's successor?
Jehoahaz - 2 Chronicle 36:1
Shallum - Jeremiah 22:11
Also, your original scriptures are all doubtful according to the Bible's own theologians and historians. It's quite hilarious that even the Bible itself admits that it has been tampered with and corrupted by man's garbage:
"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'?
But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.
(From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
And regarding who wrote the books and gospels of the Bible, well here is a sample of what the NIV Bible's theologians and historians wrote:
"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark. They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark. His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost. (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"
"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1643)"
"The writer of this letter does not identify himself, but he was obviously well known to the original recipients. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1856)"
"The letter is difficult to date with precision....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)"
"It seems safe to conclude that the book, at least in its early form, dates from the beginning of the monarchy. Some think that Samuel may have had a hand in shaping or compiling the materials of the book, but in fact we are unsure who the final author or editor was. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 286)"
"Although, according to tradition, Samuel wrote the book, authorship is actually uncertain. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"
"The date of the composition is also unknown, but it was undoubtedly during the monarchy. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"
"The author is unknown. Jewish tradition points to Samuel, but it is unlikely that he is the author because the mention of David (4:17,22) implies a later date. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 360)"
"Who the author was cannot be known with certainty since the book itself gives no indication of his identity. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 368)"
"There is little conclusive evidence as to the identity of the author of 1,2 Kings. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"
"Whoever the author was, it is clear that he was familiar with the book of Deuteronomy. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"
"According to ancient Jewish tradition, Ezra wrote Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (see Introduction to Ezra: Literary Form and Authorship), but this cannot be established with certainty. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 569)"
"Although we do not know who wrote the book of Esther, from internal evidence it is possible to make some inferences about the author and the date of composition. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 707)"
"The unknown author probably had access to oral and/or written sources....(From the NIV Bible commentary, page 722)"
"Regarding authorship, opinions are even more divided....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 773)"
etc...
How do you respond to this?
Please visit: Just who were the original authors of the Bible?
to see the book's bibliography to the above quotes.
Also, why don't you visit: Contradictions and proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible, and see exactly what I mean, instead of acting like a total fool and saying things that even the Bible refutes in it!
It is quite obvious that Christians today believe in third party authors' words as the words of GOD. This is a very serious corruption in the Bible that must be taken into deep consideration by the Bible's followers. Please visit "Is the Bible the true word of GOD?" to see a full and complete paper about the logical corruptions in the Bible, along with many Christian famous priests and ministers opinions that agree with the Bible's corruption. I have their personal quotes in that site.
Also, as to the parts of the Bible that Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, please
visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
After that, please visit: Prophet Muhammad was foretold in many places in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.
He wrote:
Yet the only archeological evidence that has survived from the Qurans first
century is a coin and an inscription inside the Dome of the Rock on the Jewish Temple
Mount. These fragments differ from each other and from todays book.
The Qurans chasm of historical credibility is the good
news. The other four books of Islam that comprise the Sunnah: the Sira, Tarikh
(History), and Hadith, didnt find parchment or scroll for one to three hundred years
after the events were played out. Turning to Rodwell we learn: The first biographer
of Muhammad of whom we have any information was Zohri, who died A.H. 124; but his works,
although quoted by later writers, are no longer extant. Said another way,
Zohris biography may have been written one hundred years after the events occurred,
but it doesnt matter because no one has ever found a copy. Ibn Ishaq, who died
in A.H. 151 (763 A.D.), composed a biography of Muhammad for the Caliphs use.
Although there are no surviving copies of his work either, much of it was salvaged by
Hisham, an admittedly biased editor. He died in A.H. 213. Ibn Hishams Life
of Muhammad begins with a stunning confession. He says that he removed material that
discredited Muhammad from Ishaqs original manuscript.
My response:
What?! What does the Dome of Rock in Palestine have anything to do with the Noble Quran in Mecca, which is approximately 1500 miles away?! The clown, Rodwell, that you're quoting and learning all of your lies and BS from is no better than quoting from your own dubious book, the "Prophet of Doom" nonsensical book. Both of you are clowns, and quoting from either of you is useless and worthless.
Also, Islam has no five books. Islam only has One Holy Book and that is the Noble Quran. And as to the Hadiths' volumes, there are 6 Sahih books and other Volumes such as Sunan Abu Dawud, Misbah Al-Masabeeh and others. So the number of the Hadiths collections ALONE is far greater than 5 books. So you're quote: "The other four books of Islam that comprise the Sunnah: the Sira, Tarikh (History), and Hadith, didnt find parchment or scroll for one to three hundred years after the events were played out" not only reveals your stupidity and ignorance in Islam, but it also shows that you are a clear LIAR AND FULL OF SH***.
Another proof for the reader that you are a liar, and that the false information above was not an innocent mistake is your quote itself. You said: "The other four books of Islam that comprise the Sunnah: the Sira, Tarikh (History), and Hadith, didnt find...." Your quote only mentions three books! This proves that:
(1) You don't know what you're talking about because you couldn't even come up with the fourth book.
(2) You don't even know the Islamic books that make up the hadiths. Otherwise, you would not fall short in listing only three of them, which is a very small number when compared to the many volumes that make up the literally 2 million hadiths out there.
Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic. Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death. Their narrations were orally transmitted by others. Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:
"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam). (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"
Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:
From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:
Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:
In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum. It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words! The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word. In Arabic, a word is not original. There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention. This can change the entire meaning of the whole word and sentence.
That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.
Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.
For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful. I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies. But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous! Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration. I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.
That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the
Truth and reject the others.
Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all
written during the Prophet's time. Some or even many of them were probably written
down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I
was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly
all written during the Prophet's time.
I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....
Example about my own name to simplify things:
Take "Osama" for example. First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent. The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama". Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato". The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.
When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising. Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual. I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.
THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".
To the reader, please visit: What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe
are closest to the Truth, and Why?
He wrote:
Tabari didnt edit Ishaq to make Muhammad look better, but he
only referred to the earlier work when it conflicted with his own collection of oral
testimony or Hadith. Tabari completed his History of Prophets and Kings in A.H.
310three hundred years after the prophets death. The Concise Encyclopedia
of Islam says: His work became the definitive resource. This makes his
annals of Muhammads creation of Islam the earliest surviving unedited account of the
prophets words and deeds, and therefore of the context in which his Quran was
revealed. It also means that there was a three hundred year gap filled principally by oral
transmission for the lone unedited collection of Islamic Hadith containing any chronology
or context.
Rodwell, in the preface of his early Quran translation, tells us:
It may be considered quite certain that Traditions concerning Muhammad were not
reduced to writing for at least the greater part of a century. They rested entirely in the
memory of those who have handed them down, and must necessarily have been colored by their
prejudices and convictions, to say nothing of the tendency to formulate myths and
fabrications to serve the purposes of the contending factions
. It soon becomes
obvious to the reader of Muslim Traditions that both miracles and historical events have
been invented for the sake of expounding a dark and perplexing text [the Quran]; and
that the earlier Traditions are largely tinged with a mythical element.
He goes on to say: These ancient writers [Ishaq and Tabari] are
the principal sources whence anything approaching authentic information as to the life of
Muhammad has been derived. And it may be safely concluded that after the diligent
investigations carried on by the professed collectors of Traditions in the second century
after the Hijrah, that little or nothing remains to be added to our stores of information
relative to the details of Muhammads life, or to facts which may further illustrate
the text of the Quran. There are no records posterior in date to these authorities
that should be considered.
While every Islamic scholar I have studied agrees with Rodwells
assessment, thats not the end of the bad news. The people of Central Arabia in the
sixth through eighth centuries were illiterate. Thus Hadith were passed along by word of
mouth through the generations, father to son through chains of transmitters called isnads.
Lets view this problem from a more contemporary perspective.
Imagine reconstructing the history of the American Revolution today based entirely upon
oral traditions handed down over nine generations. Without books, letters, paintings, or
pictures, it would be impossible to recreate the words of Cornwallis and Washington or to
resurrect the drama as it was actually played out. Now, imagine writing this history in
London, thousands of miles from where the events unfoldedin the home of those who
were defeated. Such is the story of Islam. The first and best Hadith, Sunnah, and Sira
were compiled in Baghdad, not Mecca or Medina, two to three centuries removed. And like
detailing the American Revolution in Britain, each of the Persian scholars wrote in a
highly politicized climate for men with a personal agenda. A compelling argument can be
made for Islam being Persian rather than Arabian; the birthplace being Baghdad, not Mecca.
Yet while none of this attests to the reliability or unbiased nature of
the Islamic scripture, it doesnt actually matter. If Muhammad were really a prophet,
if Allah were really a god, and if the Hadith and Quran were really divinely
inspired and dictated, the accuracy of these books would be of paramount importance. Our
eternity would rest upon their every word. But since Muhammad was as feeble-minded as his
deity and as emotionally disturbed as his scripture depicts him, an accurate witness and a
faithfully maintained account is irrelevant.
So if much of this isnt true, why bother? Because through force,
fate, and faith, over a billion people believe its true. They believe Muhammad was a
prophet, Allah was his God, and that the Quran was comprised of divine revelations.
They even think the sayings of the prophet, upon which the Hadith, Sira, and Sunnah are
based, were divinely inspired scripture. Because most Muslims arent free, literally
trapped by fate and force in this delusion and in the hellish conditions the doctrine
inspires, compassion compels us to expose the fraud and release them from the shackles of
Islam.
Oh, and then there is the another problemIslamic terrorism. This
stuff is corrosive, causing people to act in accordance with its teachings, prophet, and
god. Islam commands and conditions men to murder. It motivates them to commit acts of
terror. If we want to thwart this foe we must first understand what its adherents believe
and what drives them to such ungodly behavior. If we want to rid the world of terror, we
must first expose the doctrine that makes men terrorists. Remember, prior to Muhammad,
Arabs conquered no one. After Islam they subjected much of the known world to their sword.
What changed them, pray tell, if not these words?
While the Islamic holy books arent historically
reliable, they are Islam not a version, interpretation, or corruption of Islam, but
the essence of the religion. Muhammad can be no different than these books depict him. If
they dont accurately present the prophet and his dark spirit, they are unknowable
and thus irrelevant. Frankly speaking, Islam loses either way.
My response:
As to the hadiths, throughout my previous rebuttals, I've said all along that the hadiths were corrupt. You have mentioned nothing new. On the contrary, this debunks your points and purpose about quoting from the Al-Tabari and Ishaq throughout your entire book as if the quotes were as reliable as the Noble Quran itself.
Like I mentioned above, the hadiths were literally documented 100s of years after the Prophet's, peace be upon him, death. Not everything you read is accurate and was necessarily told by the Prophet word for word, or even if at all! It is important, if you wish to be objective and honest, to put the Noble Quran as the center for any Islamic argument. If the Noble Quran makes a claim, then it is definitely agreed upon by all Muslims, and it is perfectly authentic. Otherwise, GOD Almighty only Knows about what is true and what is false regarding the narrations that you use in Hadiths and Sunnah books.
The "Sahih Bukhari" or "Authentic Bukhari" in English was the first volume to be compiled. Bukhari is not an Arabic name! Bukhari is derived from the word "Bukhara", which is a city in Afghanistan:
"We now come to the Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story. It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara......." (www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm)
For anyone who knows the Islamic history, this means that the Muslims spread Islam to the pagan Arabs, established the Islamic State in Arabia, then fought the Persians (Iranians) and the Romans; invaded the Persians and crushed the Romans, then fought the Hindus in Hindustan, invaded much of their lands such as "Pakistan", "Afghanistan", and much of the Indian territories, convert people there to Islam, and then Brother Bukhari appeared from his home town, Bukhara and decided to compile the Hadiths of "Sahih Bukhari".
Are these narrations all 100% perfect and reliable? Any person with the least atom of a brain would say no. I am not saying that all of the Hadiths must be rejected. But for us to day to have close to 2,000,000 of them is quite ridiculous, because they can't all have been written down during our Prophet's times in Arabia. Most of the Hadiths' chains of narrations today have 10s of narrators in them. In the Hadith books, you would see something like the following:
"About such and such, that he heard his father say that such and such said, that he heard such and such say, that he heard such and such say, etc...." Most of the narrations' links have tons of narrators in them, many times more than 10, and these people would be generations after each others! In other words, they're not people at the same age or the same group. And the worst dilemma of all, is that many of these chain of narrations have broken links in them, meaning, that two or three generations are missing in the chain!
Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic. Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death. Their narrations were orally transmitted by others. Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:
"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam). (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"
Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:
From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:
Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:
In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum. It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words! The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word. In Arabic, a word is not original. There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention. This can change the entire meaning of the whole word and sentence.
That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.
Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.
For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful. I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies. But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous! Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration. I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.
That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the
Truth and reject the others.
Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all
written during the Prophet's time. Some or even many of them were probably written
down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I
was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly
all written during the Prophet's time.
I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....
Example about my own name to simplify things:
Take "Osama" for example. First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent. The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama". Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato". The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.
When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising. Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual. I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.
THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".
To the reader, please visit: What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe
are closest to the Truth, and Why?
He wrote:
Returning to the Hadith, we discover an interesting artifact concerning the early
Meccans and their Kaaba. It also heralds from the Year of the Elephant. Abdul
Muttalib was a big shot in town, a wealthy idolater born two generations before Muhammad.
In the line of Qusayy, he became the custodian of the Kaaba. Tabari
VI:15 After the death of his
uncle al-Muttalib, Abdul Muttalib took over the privilege of watering and feeding the
pilgrims which the sons of Abd Manaf had held before him. He was honored and was a man of
great importance, for not one was his equal. Ishaq:62 Sleeping on the graves of Hagar and Ishmael he was ordered
in a vision to dig Zamzam. Allahu Akbar, he shouted. This is the well of
our father Ishmael. Tabari VI:15
He brought out what was buried there, namely, two
golden gazelles, swords and coats of mail. He made the swords into a door for the
Kaaba. Its interesting that the Kaabas
treasure contained the implements Muhammad would use to loot the world: swords and coats
of mail. The door to Allahs House and the path to Islam were the same.
Ownership of the newfound booty was determined by a gambling game.
Divining arrows were thrown at Hubals feet, the
greatest of the idols. Ishaq:64 Muttalib prayed to Allah and the priest threw the
arrows. The Kaaba won the gazelles.
Abdul Muttalib was the first to
institute the two yearly caravans. He was the first to obtain for the Quraysh guarantees of safety which
allowed them to travel far and wide from the sacred precincts of Mecca,guarantees
Muhammad would break.
Then one day, sun boring down on the treeless town, Muttalib was
struggling to clear the well of Zamzam when: Ishaq:66/Tabari VI:2 It is alleged, and Allah only knows the truth, that Abdul
Muttalib encountered opposition when he was digging Zamzam. He vowed that if given ten
sons, to make his labor less arduous and to protect him, he would sacrifice one of them to
Allah at the Kaaba. Bad move, because eventually he had ten
sons. So, foolishly faithful to the rocks, he tossed divining arrows at Hubals feet
to determine which son should die. Ishaq:67 They used to conduct their affairs according to the
decisions of the arrows. His youngest lost. The boys name was
Abd-Allah, or Slave-to-Allah.
Now why would someone name a kid Slave-to-Allah a
generation before Islams prophet claimed Allah was the creator-god of the universe?
The answer is as embarrassing as any in the annals of religious lore. For all Muhammad
really did was promote one of the existing Meccan idols, the moon god Allah, above Hubal,
Al-Lat, Manat, Al-Uzza, and hundreds of others. On this day Allah had to compete for
adoration, as Muttalibs tossing arrows at Hubals feet attests. A Bukhari
Hadith confirms the godly congestion: Bukhari:V5B59N583 When the Prophet entered Mecca on the day of the Conquest,
there were 360 idols around the Kaaba. The Prophet started striking them with a
stick.
Islamic scholar Montgomery Watt, one of the English translators of
Tabari, adds an interesting footnote. He says, The name [not word] Allah has
throughout been [wrongly] translated as God. It should be kept in mind,
however, that in the pre-Islamic period it does not necessarily mean God in a
monotheistic sense. It is known from the Quran (29:61 and 39:38) that many
pre-Islamic Arabs believed in Allah as a god who was superior to the other gods whom they
also recognized.
Allah was a name, much like the Judeo-Christian Yahweh. But
Muslims desperately needed the world to see it otherwise. For if Allah was a proper
namenot a wordtheir religion was a fraud. The creator of the universe
cant be a pagan god, no matter how big a stick Muhammad swung. And Allah cant
be Yahweh any more than I can be George Washington.
Arabic, like Hebrew before it, is a Semitic language. In Hebrew,
el, was the word for godlower case gas in idols.
Elohiym was used with the article to convey God with a capital G.
In Arabic, el became il. Then, over time, Arabs derived a
secondary word for god, ilah. With al being the Arabic word for
the, Muslims would have us believe that Allah is a contraction of
al and ilah. But the first pillar of Islam contradicts this claim
when it says: There is no ilah but Allah. If Allah were the Arabic
word for god it would have been written: There is no allah but Allah. Moreover, the
Quran itself uses Ilah when Allah claims to be the God of
Abraham (Quran 2:132). And that ends the debate because the only way Muslims
can claim Allah, not Ilah, is the Arabic word for God is for the Quran
to be errant or for its author to be either ignorant or deceitful. Further, there are
hundreds, if not thousands, of Islamic traditions like the one we just reviewed that
confirm that Allah was the name of a well-known pagan deity (at least in Mecca). Their own
scriptures profess that Allah had an ignominious rule as a Meccan rock idol centuries
before he was transformed from god to God, from an ilah to Allah. All of which serves to
destroy the most essential Islamic myth: We all worship the same God.
Back in Mecca: Ishaq:67 When Abdul Muttalib had ten sons grown to maturity and he
knew that they would protect him, he told them of his vow, and called on them to keep
faith with Allah in this matter. They expressed their obedience, and asked what they
should do. He replied, Let every one of you take an arrow, write his name on it, and
bring it to me. They did this, and he went into the presence of Hubal in the
interior of the Kaaba. Hubal was the greatest of the idols of Quraysh in
Mecca. Ibn Ishaq, the earliest compiler of Muslim Traditions, just
told us that the high god of the Kaaba was Hubalnot Allah. Doesnt this
make Allah (also the second god of the Quran following Ar-Rahman) a second rate
deity?
Papa Muttalib started having second thoughts. So he went off and
consulted with a sorceress, hoping to get the right advice. Tabari
VI:2 By Allah! You shall never
sacrifice him but you must get an excuse for not doing so. This
sounds innocent enough until you realize that the person swearing by Allah is a Devil
worshipper. There is a sorceress who has a familiar
spirit; ask her, and you will know what to do. If she commands you to sacrifice him, you
will sacrifice him, and if she commands you to do something which offers relief to you and
to him, you can accept it. Sorceresses are occult mediums: in other
words, witches. Their familiar spirits are demons.
The noose around Islams neck is tightening. We have multiple gods
in the Kaaba and a witch deciding the fate of Muhammads father. So they went to Medina where they discovered that the
sorceress had moved to Khaybar. They rode until they reached her. She said, Retire
from me until my familiar spirit visits me and I can ask him. Abdul Muttalib stood and
prayed to Allah. Now theres a picture: idolaters praying to
Allah in Islamic fashion in the presence of a Devil worshiper. So, what do you think
Satans representative had to say? Would she pardon Muhammads papa and allow
Islam to be born?
Lucifer must like Islam because...On
the following day they went back. She said, Yes! News has come to me. How much is
the blood-money among you? They replied, Ten camels. She said,
Bring forward the young man and ten camels, and cast arrows. If they fall against
the boy, add camels until your Lord [Would that be Satan, Hubal, or Allah?] is
satisfied.
We continue with Ishaqs account: Tabari VI:5
They returned to Mecca when they had all
agreed on the matter, Abdul Muttalib stood and prayed to Allah inside the Kaaba
beside Hubal. The arrows fell against Abdallah, so they added ten camels, making twenty.
With Muttalib standing and praying to Allah they went on this way ten times. Each time the
arrows fell against Abdallah. Satans representative seems to
have been considerably more accommodating. There is just one chance in 1024 that
fifty-fifty odds will go awry ten times in a row.
Tabari explains the horror of it all: Abdul
Muttalib stood beside Hubal in the interior of the Kaaba, calling upon Allah. The
custodian of the arrows took and cast them, and the lot fell against Abdallah. So Muttalib
took Abdallah by the hand. He grabbed a large knife. Then he went up to the idols Isaf and
Nailah [the fornicating stones] who Quraysh used to slaughter their sacrifices, to
sacrifice Abdullah.
But rather than slice his sons throat, Muttalib opted for one
more cast of the divining arrows. They finally fell in favor of the boy. So Abdul, the
stones, idols, gods, diviners, and sorcerers came to an understanding. Abdallahs
life was spared. Your Lord is satisfied at last. The
camels were slaughtered and left there. No man or wild beast was turned back from eating
them.
Abdul Muttalib took Abdallah by the hand.
It is alleged they passed by Umm Qattal bt. Abd al-Uzza [Slave-to-the-goddess-al-Uzza],
the sister of Waraqa [the Hanif]. She was by the Kaaba. When she looked at his face
she said, Where are you going, Abdallah? I have seen many camels slaughtered for
you, so sleep with me now. Sure, why not add a little
prostitution into the mix. Weve already got devil worship, paganism, gambling, and
child abuse occurring around the Kaaba.
But the bribe was evidently insufficient. So the proud papa, king of
Mecca, custodian of the Kaaba, and heir to the religious scam, took his son to the
wealthiest and most powerful man of the neighboring clan, the Banu Zurah, and arranged for
his son Abdallah to marry the chiefs daughter Aminah. The blushing brides
grandmother was abd al-Uzza, which made her genealogy and status perfect,
according to Ishaq.
Before we consummate this marriage, I must say Im surprised
Bukhari, Tabari, and Ishaq recount this sordid tale. Muhammad grew up a stones throw
from where it occurred. Yet he chose to ignore his ignominious past, revising Jewish
history instead, in order to make the near sacrifice in his backyard shrine look
monotheistic. In lieu of the truth, he said that the Hebrew patriarch Abraham had nearly
sacrificed Ishmael at Allahs House.
Take a deep breath. The next Hadith begins with an inordinately long
sentence. Tabari VI:6 It
is alleged that he consummated his marriage to her there as soon as he married her, that
he lay with her and that she conceived Muhammad; then he left her presence and came to the
woman who had propositioned him, and said to her, Why do you not make the same
proposition to me today which you made to me yesterday? To
which she replied, The light which was with you
yesterday has left you, and I have no need of you today.
Remember, these Hadith found paper in Baghdad centuries after
Muhammads passing. By that time, the Muslim scholars who authored them had
well-defined agendas. In particular, they had to make their guy look as godly as that
Christian guy, or theyd be out of business. The Gospels proclaimed that Christ was
the light of the world, so Muslims contrived this Hadith to make their prophet appear
similarly enlightened. And if you think that Im being too cynical, listen to the
next line from Tabari. She had heard about this from
her brother Waraqa bin Nawfal, who was a [Hanif turned] Christian and had studied the
scriptures; he had discovered that a prophet from the descendants of Ishmael was to be
sent to this people; this had been one of the purposes of his study.
Holy hogwash. The Bible says no such thing about the descendants of
Ishmael. It says that hell give rise to twelve rulers and that his descendants will
live like wild asses of men, hands raised against their brothers, living in hostility with
the world. While prophetic, its hardly prophet material.
So why did the Muslim scholars choose to deceive us? They needed to,
thats why. And within their community they could get away with it. And Arabs would
never be wiser for it. They were illiterate, and even the miniscule percentage who could
read were out of luck when it came to the Bible. There is no trace of an Arabic
translation of the Old Testament prior to that of Saadias Gaon in 900 A.D., decades after
this delusion was promulgated. And the oldest Arabic New Testament was published by
Erpenius in 1616 from a transcription of a 1171 Coptic scroll.
In the territories controlled by the Muslim warlords of the seventh
through tenth centuries, words were irrelevant, as unimportant as evangelists. Islam grew
by sword through conquest, not by words and reason. And those who benefited from this ruse
knew that by the time their deception was exposed, it would be too late; the victory would
have been won.
For those who may think I am perhaps making too much of too little,
consider this: Tabari VI:7
When Abdul Muttalib was taking Abdallah to marry Aminah they passed by a female
soothsayer called Fatimah, a convert to Judaism from the people of Tabalah who had read
the scriptures and who saw light in his face. Young man, she said, would
you like to lie with me now, and I will give you a hundred camels? Contriving
a phony Christian endorsement of the Muslim prophet was not enough. Now a Jewish
soothsayer is called to verify the light. But why would a Jew react this way? The
Judeo-Christian scriptures say nothingzip, zero, zilchabout the father of a
prophet having a light in his face. Further, Judaism and soothsaying are mutually
exclusive. Jews serve Yahweh; soothsayers serve Satan.
The third variant of this desperate grope for credibility demeans
Abdallah. His father took him and married him to
Aminah and he stayed with her for three days. Then he left her and when he passed by the
Khatham woman he felt a desire to accept the proposition which she had made. He
asked her, Would you like to have what you wanted before? Young
man, she said, I am not, by Allah, a woman of questionable morals. I saw light
in your face and wished it to be within me. But Allah willed that He should place it where
He wished. The Devil worshiper wanted the Devils child.
Then our Allah/Devil-serving soothsayer: recited
the following verses: I saw a sign which shone in the black clouds. I comprehended
it as light which illuminated like the full moon. I hoped to have it as a source of pride
which I might take back with me
. By Allah, no other woman has plundered your person
of that which Aminah has
. Not all the fortune which the young man inherits comes
from resolve, nor does that which escapes him come from remiss. So if you desire
something, behave with restraint for two grandfathers combined to ensure it for you. A
hand clenched or outstretched will ensure it for you. When Aminah conceived that which she
conceived from him, she conceived an incomparable glory From
black signs to pride, from full moons to plundering, from inherited fortunes to
grandfathers ensuring loot, the young prophet would get what he desired from both open and
clenched fists. This passage is so fraught with portent, so twisted with harbingers of
Muhammads con, the originator must have laughed himself silly as his quill met
parchment. He evidently got himself so worked up he bungled the tense in his parting
salvo. Once again a simple story belies the nature of Islam. Our guy is better than
your guy and we will say anything, no matter how absurd, to prove it.
Abdallah lived long enough to father a son, but not to see him born. In
a haunting overture of what was to come, the prophets father died while on a
business trip to Yathrib. Fifty-two years later the religion of Islam would die there as
well when a prophet went on a business trip to Yathrib and became a profiteer.
My response:
Again, throughout my previous rebuttals, I've said all along that the hadiths were corrupt. You have mentioned nothing new. On the contrary, this debunks your points and purpose about quoting from the Al-Tabari and Ishaq throughout your entire book as if the quotes were as reliable as the Noble Quran itself.
Like I mentioned above, the hadiths were literally documented 100s of years after the Prophet's, peace be upon him, death. Not everything you read is accurate and was necessarily told by the Prophet word for word, or even if at all! It is important, if you wish to be objective and honest, to put the Noble Quran as the center for any Islamic argument. If the Noble Quran makes a claim, then it is definitely agreed upon by all Muslims, and it is perfectly authentic. Otherwise, GOD Almighty only Knows about what is true and what is false regarding the narrations that you use in Hadiths and Sunnah books.
The "Sahih Bukhari" or "Authentic Bukhari" in English was the first volume to be compiled. Bukhari is not an Arabic name! Bukhari is derived from the word "Bukhara", which is a city in Afghanistan:
"We now come to the Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story. It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara......." (www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm)
For anyone who knows the Islamic history, this means that the Muslims spread Islam to the pagan Arabs, established the Islamic State in Arabia, then fought the Persians (Iranians) and the Romans; invaded the Persians and crushed the Romans, then fought the Hindus in Hindustan, invaded much of their lands such as "Pakistan", "Afghanistan", and much of the Indian territories, convert people there to Islam, and then Brother Bukhari appeared from his home town, Bukhara and decided to compile the Hadiths of "Sahih Bukhari".
Are these narrations all 100% perfect and reliable? Any person with the least atom of a brain would say no. I am not saying that all of the Hadiths must be rejected. But for us to day to have close to 2,000,000 of them is quite ridiculous, because they can't all have been written down during our Prophet's times in Arabia. Most of the Hadiths' chains of narrations today have 10s of narrators in them. In the Hadith books, you would see something like the following:
"About such and such, that he heard his father say that such and such said, that he heard such and such say, that he heard such and such say, etc...." Most of the narrations' links have tons of narrators in them, many times more than 10, and these people would be generations after each others! In other words, they're not people at the same age or the same group. And the worst dilemma of all, is that many of these chain of narrations have broken links in them, meaning, that two or three generations are missing in the chain!
Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic. Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death. Their narrations were orally transmitted by others. Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:
"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam). (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"
Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:
From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:
Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:
In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum. It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words! The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word. In Arabic, a word is not original. There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention. This can change the entire meaning of the whole word and sentence.
That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.
Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.
For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful. I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies. But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous! Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration. I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.
That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the
Truth and reject the others.
Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all
written during the Prophet's time. Some or even many of them were probably written
down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I
was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly
all written during the Prophet's time.
I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....
Example about my own name to simplify things:
Take "Osama" for example. First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent. The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama". Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato". The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.
When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising. Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual. I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.
THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".
To the reader, please visit: What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe
are closest to the Truth, and Why?
He wrote:
In an attempt to make Muhammad appear Messianic, our hero was portrayed as
having been born to considerable fanfare. There were celestial fireworks, regal visitors,
an angelic host, and a veritable cornucopia of miracles. In that the worst of these were
laughable, and the best were copied from the Gospels, Ill spare you the gory
detailsespecially since none of them make any sense in context of what happened
next. There is, however, one in Ishaqs Biography that is intriguing: Ishaq:69 It is alleged in popular stories (and only Allah knows the
truth) that Aminah, the mother of Allahs Apostle, used to say when she was pregnant,
A voice said to me, You are pregnant with the Lord of this people and when he
is born say, I put him in the care of the One from the evil of the envier; then call him
Muhammad. She saw a light come forth from her by which
she could see the castles in Syria. Envy is what drove Muhammad to create Islam. The
care of the Evil One better known as Lucifer or Satanmay well have been what
inspired him.
The truth is rather ignoble. Muslim scholars know nothing about
Muhammads birth, and very little about his childhood. They missed his birthday by
eighteen years when they claimed he was born in the year of the elephant, recently dated
to 552 A.D. But to make their prophet fit Qusayys profile of being forty when he
staked his claim to the Kaaba, Islamic historians claim Muhammad was born in
570exactly forty years before the first revelation. Missing a date this
important by eighteen years calls all of Islams oral testimony into question. By way
of example, this did not occur: Ishaq:70 I heard a Jew calling out at the top of his voice from
Yathrib, O Jews, tonight has risen a star under which Ahmad is to be
born.
Born fatherless, Muhammads mother abandoned him, giving him up to
be suckled by a Bedouin woman. With his father dead and his mother poor, no wet-nurse
wanted the infant because the burden exceeded the potential remuneration. Raising
anothers child in the inhospitable desert was done for money, not love. The least
qualified of the wet-nurses, we are told, after failing to find a wealthy kid, reluctantly
snatched the last available newborn, the would-be prophet, and hauled him off into the
wilderness. A Hadith explains: Ishaq:70 Halima went forth with her baby whom she was nursing, with other
women, in search of babies to nurse. She was destitute and could not sleep because of the
weeping of her hungry child. She had no milk to give him. Halima was
obviously in no position to suckle another child. This was a disaster waiting to happen.
Ishaq:71 When
Halima reached Mecca, she set out to look for foster children. The Apostle of Allah was
offered to everyone of us, and each woman refused him when she was told he was an orphan,
because we hoped to get payment from the childs father. We said, An
orphan! And we spurned him because of that. Every woman who came with me got a
suckling except me. And when we decided to depart, I said, I do not like the idea of
returning with my friends without a suckling. I will take that orphan. I took him
for the sole reason that I could not find anyone else. So much for
the light theory. Women were throwing themselves at Muhammads dad to
sire him, but no one wanted to raise him. That doesnt make any sense.
What happened out there in the blowing sands and blistering heat is
anybodys guess. All we know is that a baby was abandoned by his mother and given to
a woman who was ill prepared to care for him. The only testimony that survives is in the
Qurana haunting and recurring theme that suggests he may have been abused.
Allahs revelations speak of an orphan boy with wealthy relatives being abandoned,
treated poorly, and being shut out of the family businessThe Kaaba Inc.
Permutations of this theme permeate Allahs book, compelling the Muslim sages to give
this mess a prophetic twist.
Ibn Ishaq claims that when Muhammad was two, Halima brought him back to
his mother Aminah. Ishaq:72 But
she sent him back. Some months after his return to the desert two men in white seized the
boy, threw him down and opened up his belly, stirring it up. We are
told that Muhammad was livid. Halima said,
I am afraid that this child has had a stroke, so I want to take him back before the
result appears. She carried him back to Aminah and said, I am afraid that ill
will befall him, so I have brought him back to you. She asked what had happened. I
said, I fear that a demon has possessed him. She was
right.
Muhammad confirms the spiritual encounter. Ishaq:72 They seized me and opened up my belly, extracted my heart
and split it. They extracted a black drop from it and threw it away. They washed my heart
and belly with snow until they had cleaned them. Muslim:B1N311 Gabriel came to Muhammad while he was playing with his
playmates. He took hold of him and lay him prostrate on the ground and tore open his
breast and took out the heart. Then he extracted a blood-clot out of it and said:
That was the part of Satan in you. And then he washed it with the water of
Zamzam in a golden basin and then it was joined together and restored to it place. The
boys came running to their mother and said: Muhammad has been murdered. They
all rushed toward him. I myself saw the marks of needle on his breast.
If this occurred, it was Lucifer, not Gabriel, and he was placing his spirit inside.
Organ removal and washing are Satanicpart of occult ritual
worshipthe kind of thing Muhammads father and grandfather were into. And
ironically, if it had happened, it would be miraculous and therefore it would be in
conflict with the Quran. Allahs book says that the only miracle associated
with the prophet was the revelation of the surahs themselves. In Quran 21:5 we find
that one of the many arguments used by Muhammads critics at the time was that he
couldnt do miracles. Since the Judeo-Christian Prophets could, and did, they said he
couldnt be a prophet. If Muhammad had been involved in a miracle, or could do one,
all he would have had to do to silence his critics was to explain the ones that had taken
place, or simply summon his gods power to perform one. But no.
Sixth century surgery aside, the Islamic sages say that before the year
was out, Aminah died. A slave girl took care of our young hero for a while before his
grandfather finally took an interest. And even this is potentially disturbing, for the
scriptures say of Abdul Muttalibs affection: Ishaq:73 He would make him sit beside him on his bed and
would stroke him with his hand. He was extremely fond of him and used to constantly pet
him.
Straight from the Devil we learn: Ishaq:79 There was a seer [occultist prophet] who came
to Mecca to look at Muhammad. She said, Bring me that boy, for I saw just now that
by Allah he has a great future. Then, disaster strikes once
more: Tabari VI:44
Abdul Muttalib died eight years after the Year of the Elephant. He entrusted the
future Messengers care to his uncle Abu Talib, because Abu and Abdallah had had the
same mother. Needless to say, Muhammad had one whacked-out
childhood. Its not hard to understand why he was so insecure or why he turned out as
he did.
Virtually everything associated with Muhammad was decidedly
unprophet-like. His birth was not foretold. The circumstances surrounding it were nasty.
He couldnt perform a miracle. He never issued a single prophetic utterance that came
true as predicted. His scripture was abysmaldevoid of context and chronology. It
focused on hate, violence, and punishment. His new religion was simply
repackaged paganism blended with a plethora of plagiarized and twisted Bible stories. What
little was inventive was tragic. War was elevated to a paramount religious duty. Plunder
was approved, as was incest, thievery, lying, assassination, genocide, and rape to name a
few Islamic innovations. Paradise became a lustful orgy. The would-be prophets
depictions of hell told us more about him than about the place. And his life was an
example of what not to do, rather than how to behave. Then there was his goda
trickster, angry and demented.
According to the Quran, the Meccans knew the prophet was full of
it. They ridiculed him on every occasiona hundred variations of the never-ending
argument were faithfully recounted in the Islamic holy book. But the Meccans were
eventually conquered and criticizing the prophet became a deadly game. So the next time
the Muslim hierarchy was confronted with the notion that their man didnt measure up
was when they paraded his legacy out to the literate word. The enlightened didnt buy
it either, and for all the reasons we have just mentioned.
That put the Muslim warlords in a tough spot. They had raided everyone
from India to Spain. Now they needed to control that which they had conquered. And they
recognized that there is no better way to subdue a population than to impose a religion.
So about a hundred and fifty years after the prophets death, the Persians rolled out
the first version of the Islamic religion. It was as dismal a failure as it
had been in Mecca. Their subjects said, This guys no prophet and this stuff
isnt scripture. By way of example, Al-Kindi, a Christian polemicist employed
in the Caliphal court in 830 A.D. wrote: The result of this process by which the
Quran has come into being is that its patently obvious to those who have read
these scriptures that Muslim histories are all jumbled together and intermingled. It is an
evidence that many different hands have been at work therein, and caused discrepancies,
adding or cutting out whatever they liked or disliked. As such, the conditions are right
for a new revelation to be sent down from heaven.
So the Islamic sages retreated to Baghdad and went back to the drawing
board. Over the course of the next hundred years they buffed up their boy and their book,
releasing a new and improved Islam. This time there were miracles and Christians and Jews
ever at the ready to testify on the prophets behalf.
Lets listen in, but with a critical ear, to see how well the
sages cleaned up the prophet of Islam. Under the title, The
Messenger of Allah Is Recognized by the Monk Bahira Tabari parades
out a Hadith shared by Ishaq. Tabari VI:44/Ishaq:79 Once Abu Talib was going on a trading expedition to Syria
with a party of Quraysh, but when he had made his preparations and was ready to set out,
the Messenger, so they allege, could not bear to be separated from him.
Before I go on, Id like to point out something that should be obvious. Tabari and
Ishaq share a set of code words. When they say, so they allege, it is
alleged, it is said, some say, or Allah knows
best, they are simply reporting what they were told to write. They dont
believe it any more than you should.
Talib took pity on him, By Allah,
I will take him with me, and we shall never part, or words to that effect. The
caravan halted at Busra [Bostra?] in Syria, where there was a learned Christian monk named
Bahira in his cell. There had always been a monk in that cell, and their knowledge was
passed on, it is alleged, [the code words again] by means of a book which was handed down
from generation to generation. There is no record of this monk, his
cell, or his book outside this Hadith. But thats small potatoes compared to what
comes next.
Tabari VI:44/Ishaq:79 Bahira prepared a meal for them because while he was in his
cell he had seen the Messenger shaded by a cloud which marked him out from among the
company. When they halted in the shade of a tree, he observed the cloud covering the tree
and bending down its branches over Muhammad until he was in the shade. Bahira descended
from his cell and sent the caravan a message inviting them all. When he saw the Messenger,
he observed him very intently, noting features of his person whose description he had
found in his Christian book. Judeo-Christian prophets arent
described physically in any book. But in order to create a Christian
endorsement from a learned monk, the Muslims have invented this monk, story, and book.
After the company had finished the meal
and dispersed, he asked the Messenger about certain matters which had taken place both
when he was awake and when he was asleep. Muhammad told him, and he found that these
things corresponded to the description which he had found in his book. Finally he looked
at his back, and saw the seal of prophethood between his shoulders in the very place
described in his book. Camel-dungevery word of it. First, the
Gospels are clear. No great prophet after the Messiah is foretold. Second, there
isnt a set of awake and asleep criteria for a divine calling, which is
probably why the Hadith doesnt bother listing them. Third, there is no Biblical
seal of prophethood. The concept was derived from Arabian pagan mythology to
designate occult practitioners who talked to demons. Furthermore, the seal was
actually nothing more than a hairy mole. (Tabari IX:159)
Next, the Christian Monk swears by the Meccan idols. Tabari
VI:45/Ishaq:80 By Al-Lat
and Al-Uzza, Bahira said. Take him back to your country, and be on your
guard against the Jews, for, by Allah, if they see him and recognize what I have, they
will seek to do him harm. The Jews spent years, not hours,
with the prophet. They let him move into their town and sold him stories from
their Talmud. They never lifted a finger to harm him, even though he annihilated them in
genocidal rage.
The hardest part of lying is remembering what you said. So in true
Islamic form, we have a second variant of the mark of the prophet tale. Abu Talib set off for Syria
accompanied by the Messenger and a number of shaykhs. When they were above the monks
cell they went down and unloaded their camels. The monk walked among them, coming up and
taking the hand of the Messenger. He said, This is the Chief of the Worlds, the
Messenger. This person has been sent by Allah as a mercy to the Worlds. Lets call this Holy Hogwash, Version Two. First,
chief is a political term, not a religious one. Second, this time there were no questions,
no signs, no sealsjust a baseless, over-the-top endorsement. Third, how many
worlds are there? And fourth, how could Muhammad have been a mercy
to Christians when he and his god told Muslims to wipe them out to the last?
The shaykhs of the Quraysh said to him,
What is it you know? He replied, When you appeared at the top of the
pass there was not a tree or a stone which did not prostrate itself in worship; and they
only prostrate themselves to a prophet. Hard to believe, but
HH-2 is more pathetic than its predecessor. Neither Christians, stones, nor trees
prostrate themselvesnot even to wannabe prophets. Besides, prophets arent
supposed to be worshiped. God is.
Inanimate objects showering Muhammad with devotion was hardly a
one-time occurrence. Tabari VI:63 Before Gabriel appeared to Muhammad to confer on him his
mission as Messenger of Allah, it is said that he used to see signs and evidences
indicating that Allah wished to ennoble him. Two angels came to him, opened up his breast,
and removed the hatred and impurity which were in it. [Id sue them for malpractice.]
It is said [the Islamic code words for this is rubbish] that whenever he
passed by a tree or a stone, it would greet him.
Not to be outdone, in a Hadith from a line of transmittersor
isnadthat includes three Muhammads, a pair of Alis, two Slaves-to-Allah, and an Abd
Ar-Rahman, we learn: Whenever Muhammad went out to
attend his business [answer the call of nature] he would go a great distance, out of sight
of houses, and into the ravines and wadi beds. And then every stone and tree he passed
would say, Peace be upon you, Messenger of Allah. Even
today, Muslims, no smarter than the stones, are required to add peace be unto
him after the mention of Muhammads name.
Returning to the monk: Tabari VI:46 I also recognize him by the seal of prophethood
which is below the cartilage of his shoulders and which is like an apple.
Delicious. The apple has become the symbol of temptation. Its perfect for Islam.
HH-2 wasnt finished destroying Muhammads prophetic
credentials. It went on to establish the Christian Byzantines as enemies in addition to
the Jews. But I suppose having Christians and Jews endorse a religion that would grow by
plundering them makes about as much sense as Muhammad being a prophet. While Bahira was standing by them beseeching them not to
take the Messenger to the land of the Byzantines, since if these saw him, they would
recognize him by his description and would kill him. Muhammad
forbade Muslims from drawing his likeness. If his appearance was testimony of his
prophetic credentials, and so easily recognizable, why would he do such a thing?
Patricia Crone, an Islamic scholar and archeologist says: There
are fifteen different versions of Muhammad being blessed by a representative of a
non-Islamic religion who recognized him as a future prophet. Some place this
encounter during his infancy, others when he was nine; some say he was twenty-five. One
Tradition maintains he was recognized by Ethiopian Christians, several say by a Syrian
monk, many claim by Yathrib Jews, one suggests it was a local Hanif, while others maintain
it was a sorcerer. Some even suggest it was the belly of a dead animal. So what we have
here is nothing more than fifteen equally fictitious versions of an event that never took
place.
The Muslim sages who cant remember what their prophet told them
in Mecca are telling us that they can recreate a conversation between opposition parties
in Syria. Lets listen in, and while were doing so, lets try to determine
why the Hadith contains this dialog in the first place. The
monk turned around and suddenly beheld seven men advancing from the land of the
Byzantines. He went up to them and said, What brings you here? They replied,
We have come because this prophet is appearing in this month. Men have been sent to
every road, and we have been chosen as the best of men and have been sent to your
road. There isnt a prophetic utterance in any Christian
book about an Arab prophet. Yet we are led to believe that Christians not only knew
exactly when, but precisely where, they would find such an unspecified person. This is
desperate to the point of pathetic. If Muslims need to contrive such preposterous lies to
make Muhammad appear prophetic, he most certainly wasnt.
Yet they continue to lay planks on this flimsy foundation: Tabari
VI:64 Zayd bin Amr [a Hanif poet
from whose words Muhammad based early Quranic revelations] said, I expect a
prophet from the descendants of Ishmael, in particular from the descendants of Abd
al-Muttalib. In actuality, the first written confirmation of
this precise prediction came three hundred years after Muhammads birth. By
comparison, the last of the Biblical Messianic prophecies, for which these Islamic
predictions were contrived to compete, were committed to writing 400 years prior to
Christs birth. And unlike all things Muslim, Christians have a paper trail. The
Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible compiled in Alexandria in 275 B.C.,
survives to this day.
The post-dated Hadith of Zayd, a man who rejected both Islam and
Muhammad, continues: I shall inform you of his
description so that he will not be hidden from you. He is neither short nor tall, whose
hair is neither abundant nor sparse, whose eyes are always red, and who has the seal of
the prophethood between his shoulders. His name is Ahmad [a variant of Muhammad], and this
town [Mecca] is his birthplace and the place in which he will commence his mission. Then
his people will drive him out and hate the message which he brings, and he will emigrate
to Yathrib and triumph.
The Islamic sages who put these words in the Hanifs mouth three
centuries after his death, want you to know that every faithJudeo-Christian to
Satanicagrees: I have traveled around in search
of the faith of Abraham. [The only pre-Islamic mention of Abraham is in the Bible. Apart
from the Torah, nothing is known about himnot even his name. And the Torah is clear:
Abraham didnt have a religion; he had a relationship.] Every person whom I ask,
whether Jew, Christian, or Magian, says, This faith lies where you have come
from, and they describe him as I have described him to you. They say that no prophet
remains but he. Amir said, When I became a Muslim, I told the Messenger what
Zayd had said, and I gave him his greetings. He said, I saw him in Paradise dressed
in flowing robes. Although Zayd composed most of the
Qurans first score of surahs, he rejected Muhammads credentials and thus
Islam. By his own admission, he cant be in the Islamic paradise.
These endorsements are so preposterous it begs the
question: what must educated Muslims think when they read such nonsense? You dont
have to be a religious scholar to know that the Jewish Messiah cant be an Arab or
that Christians believe that the Messiah is the final prophet. So when this obvious
deception was brought before Islams lone messenger for certification and he endorsed
the lie, what must they think? Do they think? Why would one trust a man who must
lieor be lied forto validate his calling?
Ishaq:90 Jewish
rabbis, Christian monks, and Arab soothsayers had spoken about the Apostle of Allah before
his mission when his time drew near. The rabbis and monks found his description in their
scriptures. The Arab occultists had been visited by satans from the jinn with reports
which they had secretly overheard before they were prevented from hearing by being pelted
with stars. Ishaq:91 The Prophet explained the nature of shooting stars.
Allah shut off the satans by these stars which pelted them. So satans tried to steal
information, listening in, mingling what they heard with conjecture and false
intelligence. They conveyed it to the soothsayers. Every word
of this is incriminating.
Ishaq:92 Umar
bin al-Khattab [the future Caliph] was sitting with others in the Messengers mosque
when a Bedouin came up looking for him. Umar said, This man was a soothsayer in the
Jahiliyyah. The Satan-worshiper-turned-Allah-advocate said, During the Jahiliyyah [pre-Islamic Period of Ignorance] we
used to do worse things than you. We used to worship idols and embrace graven images until
Allah honored us with Islam. You know
youre dealing with a rotten religion when an occultist tells the champions of Islam, We used to do worse things than you.
The suggestion is that Muhammads behavior in Yathribpedophilia, incest, rape,
piracy, terrorism, genocide, and the slave tradewas better than serving a demon.
O men, the soothsayer said,
Allah has honored and chosen Muhammad, purified his heart and his
bowels. Then the future Caliph, in Muhammads presence,
asked the former occultist what he learned from the demonic spirits: Ishaq:93
Tell me, said Umar, what is the most
amazing saying which your familiar spirit [satanic jinn or demon] communicated to
you? He came to me a month before Islam and said: Have you considered
the Jinn [demons from Satans tribe] and the hopelessness and despair of their
religion [the occultwitchcraft, tarot cards, black magic, astrology, séances,
etc.]? The Islamic hierarchy was interested in what the
Satanic types had to say. Kindred spirits, I suppose.
Tabari VI:66 Then Umar said, By Allah I was by one of the idols of
the Jahiliyyah. An Arab sacrificed a calf to it, and we were waiting for it to be divided
up in order to receive a share. I heard coming from the belly of the calf a voice which
was more penetrating than any Ive heardthis was a year before Islam. The dead
calfs belly said, There is no ilah but Allah.
The next Hadith comes courtesy of a fine isnad of four Muhammads and a
future Caliph. We were sitting by an idol a month
before the Messenger commenced his mission, having slaughtered camels. Suddenly we heard a
voice calling from the belly of one: Listen to the wonder; There will be no more
eavesdropping to overhear inspiration; We throw down shooting stars for a prophet in
Mecca; His name is Ahmad. His place of emigration is Yathrib We held back and
marveled; then the Messenger began his mission. The moral of the
story is: the next time one of those pesky Christians or Jews says that Muhammad
wasnt a prophet because there were no prophecies pointing to his mission, you can
tell them it just isnt so. A dead camel and a cow told you he was Allahs boy.
How about one more, just to be fair.
A man came to the Prophet and said, Show me the seal which is between your
shoulders, and if you lie under any enchantment [a demonic curse or spell] I will cure
you, for I am the best enchanter [a witch practicing black magic] of the Arabs.
Do you wish me to show you a sign? asked the Prophet. Yes. Summon that
cluster. So the Prophet looked at a cluster of dates hanging from a palm and
summoned it, and began to snap his fingers until it stood before him. Then the man said,
Tell it to go back, and it went back. The enchanter said, I have never
seen a greater magician than I have seen today. Takes one to
know one.
My response:
The Prophet peace be upon him did not need to "look Messianic". He didn't need to prove anything to anyone. His Divine Message, the Noble Quran, was Sent to him by his Creator, Allah Almighty, and was Protected by Allah Almighty. Islam in Arabia started with one man, and now has 1.4 billion followers world-wide. Not to mention all of the great accomplishments that Muslims contributed to civilizations and science during the Islamic Empire from Medicine (small example is: Curing Chicken Pox), to Math (small example: Inventing Algebra, which was named after Al-Jaber), to Physics and Astronomy (small example: Calculating the distance between the sun and the earth), Chemistry, Biology, Geology and so much more!
Like I mentioned in my previous rebuttals, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was foretold in the Bible as the PROPHET OF ARABIA, and the Prophet from the people of "Kedar". Kedar was a descendent of Ishmael, peace be upon him:
From www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah.htm:
Isaiah 42:
This chapter seems to clearly speak about Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him for the following reasons:
Isaiah 42
The Servant of the Lord
1 "Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I
will put my Spirit on him and he will bring justice to the nations.
2 He will not shout or cry out, or raise his voice in the streets.
3 A bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not snuff
out. In faithfulness he will bring forth justice;
4 he will not falter or be discouraged till he establishes justice
on earth. In his law the islands will put their hope."
The Justice brought to the nations, the complete System of GOD Almighty's Laws on earth, the Truthfulness of Prophet Muhammad all point to these verses:
"O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For justice, as witnesses To Allah, even as against Yourselves, or your parents, Or your kin, and whether It be (against) rich or poor: For Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (Of your hearts), lest ye Swerve, and if ye Distort (justice) or decline To do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:135)"
"O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For Allah, as witnesses To fair dealing, and let not The hatred of others To you make you swerve To wrong and depart from Justice. Be just: that is Next to Piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 5:8)"
"But if anyone earns A fault or a sin And throws it on to one That is innocent, He carries (on himself) (Both) a falsehood And a flagrant sin. (The Noble Quran, 4:112)"
"Allah commands justice, the doing Of good, and liberality to kith And kin, and He forbids All shameful deeds, and injustice And rebellion: He instructs you, That ye may receive admonition. (The Noble Quran, 16:90)"
"...Help ye one another In righteousness and piety, But help ye not one another In sin and rancour: Fear Allah: for Allah Is strict in punishment. (The Noble Quran, 5:2)"
Continuing with chapter Isaiah 42:
5 This is what God the LORD says- he who created the
heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and all that comes out of it, who
gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it:
6 "I, the LORD , have called you in righteousness; I will take hold of
your hand. I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for
the people and a light for the Gentiles,
7 to open eyes that are blind, to free captives from prison and to release from
the dungeon those who sit in darkness.
The Gentiles are the non-Jews. These verses clearly suggest that the coming Prophet will be among the Gentiles. As to the covenant, please visit: Jesus told the Jews that GOD will take His Kingdom from them and give it to the Muslims. (The article is too lengthy to copy and paste here. So I ask the reader to read it thoroughly since it does contain Jesus' own quotes from the New Testament).
The following sets of verses offer even more proofs:
8 "I am the LORD ; that is my name! I will not
give my glory to another or my praise to idols.
9 See, the former things have taken place, and new things I declare; before
they spring into being I announce them to you."
Song of Praise to the Lord
10Sing to the LORD a new song, his praise from the ends of the earth, you who
go down to the sea, and all that is in it, you islands, and all who live in them.
11 Let the desert and its towns raise their voices; let the
settlements where Kedar lives rejoice. Let the people of Sela sing for joy;
let them shout from the mountaintops.
Kedar is the son of Ishmael peace be upon him: "These are
the names of the sons of Ishmael, listed in the order of their
birth: Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam,
(From the NIV Bible, Genesis 25:13)"
Please visit: The "great nation" of Ishmael and its definition in the Bible.
Also, Prophet Muhammad had a direct blood link to Kedar and Ishmael. Please visit: Prophet Muhammad's Family Tree.
The "settlements where Kedar lives" is referring to
the Arabs. The Arabs before Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him were pagans.
They used to worship idols. They had 360 idols in the Holy City of Mecca.
GOD Almighty in Isaiah 42:11 is clearly saying that He will send the people of Kedar (i.e., the Arabs) a Prophet and they should "rejoice" and "raise their voices" in happiness.
Also, "Let the desert and its towns raise their voices;" is clearly referring to Arabia, since Arabia is known to be made of mostly deserts. Jerusalem was never called "desert", nor the Jews were ever called the people of "Kedar".
Important Note: Jesus in the Bible never even once visited Arabia! He only went to Egypt (when his mom escaped to Egypt from King Herod while he was a baby) and Palestine/Israel. Jesus really had nothing to do with the Arabs of Kedar. It was Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him that was born and lived in the lands of Kedar, and he taught the Muslims how to Worship and Glorify GOD Almighty. Please visit: What is the Wisdom of Islam?
Also, please visit: The original Name for GOD Almighty in the Bible was indeed "Allah". See the proofs from the original Hebrew and Aramaic sources.
12 Let them give glory to the LORD and proclaim his
praise in the islands.
13 The LORD will march out like a mighty man, like a warrior he will stir up
his zeal; with a shout he will raise the battle cry and will triumph over his
enemies.
14 "For a long time I have kept silent, I have been quiet and held myself
back. But now, like a woman in childbirth, I cry out, I gasp and pant.
15 I will lay waste the mountains and hills and dry up all their vegetation; I
will turn rivers into islands and dry up the pools.
16 I will lead the blind by ways they have not known, along unfamiliar paths I
will guide them; I will turn the darkness into light before them and make the rough places
smooth. These are the things I will do; I will not forsake them.
17 But those who trust in idols, who say to images, 'You are our gods,' will be
turned back in utter shame.
Ironically, many Western anti-Islamics criticize Islam for spreading by the sword. Islam did probably spread by the sword, but the Muslims never really
started any battle. It was the 360 pagan Arab tribes, and later the
Persian and Christian Roman Empires that declared wars against the Muslims, because
Islam's theology was rapidly expanding and it began to threat the pagan religion of Arabia
and later the two major Empires in the region.
"he will raise the battle cry and will triumph over his enemies" clearly means that this Prophet will fight by the sword the enemies of GOD Almighty. It was Muhammad and his Muslim followers that spread Islam by crushing and defeating the enemies in the battles.
Jesus never fought any war nor ever led any army, so this Prophecy can not apply to him.
Continuing with Isaiah 42:
Israel Blind and Deaf
18 "Hear, you deaf; look, you blind, and see!
19 Who is blind but my servant, and deaf like the messenger I send? Who is
blind like the one committed to me, blind like the servant of the LORD?
20 You have seen many things, but have paid no attention; your ears
are open, but you hear nothing."
21 It pleased the LORD for the sake of his righteousness to make his law great
and glorious.
22 But this is a people plundered and looted, all of them trapped in pits or
hidden away in prisons.
They have become plunder, with no one to rescue them; they have been made loot, with no
one to say, "Send them back."
Here we see GOD Almighty is upset and greatly disappointed from the Jews. He called them "deaf and blind".
23 Which of you will listen to this or pay close
attention in time to come?
24 Who handed Jacob over to become loot, and Israel to the plunderers? Was it
not the LORD ,
against whom we have sinned? For they would not follow his ways; they did not obey his
law.
25 So he poured out on them his burning anger, the violence of war. It
enveloped them in flames, yet they did not understand; it consumed them, but they did not
take it to heart.
Like above, here also we GOD Almighty upset with the people of Israel. Please visit:
Prophet Muhammad was foretold in Isaiah 42.
From www.answering-christianity.com/god_kingdom.htm:
Introduction: Jesus said to the Jews: "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (From the KJV Bible, Matthew 21:43)"
What other nation beside the modern Muslims of today bow down to GOD Almighty in the most proper way? What other nation beside the modern Muslims Glorify GOD Almighty in their 5-daily Prayers, and fast the Month of Ramadan for Him?
Let's look at what GOD Almighty said about Ishmael, the father of the Muslims: "And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. (From the KJV Bible, Genesis 17:19-21)"
The Jews were GOD Almighty's chosen people: "We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book the Power of Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (The Noble Quran, 45:16)"
But after they utterly failed with GOD Almighty and His Messengers (Not Moses ever liked their actions, nor Jesus ever liked them and their killings of the Prophets):
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (From the KJV Bible, Matthew 23:37)"
"You have heard these things; look at them all. Will you not admit them? "From now on I will tell you of new things, of hidden things unknown to you. They are created now, and not long ago; you have not heard of them before today. So you cannot say, 'Yes, I knew of them.' You have neither heard nor understood; from of old your ear has not been open. Well do I know how treacherous you are; you were called a rebel from birth. For my own name's sake I delay my wrath; for the sake of my praise I hold it back from you, so as not to cut you off. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 48:6-9)"
"So I will disgrace the dignitaries of your temple, and I will consign Jacob to destruction and Israel to scorn. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 43:28)"
"But now, all you who light fires and provide yourselves with flaming torches, go, walk in the light of your fires and of the torches you have set ablaze. This is what you shall receive from my hand: You will lie down in torment. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 50:11)"
They became cursed, and GOD Almighty removed His Kingdom from them and gave it to another nation. That nation is non other than the "blessed" Muslims who came from the "blessed" Ishmael.
The liars of the NIV Bible had inserted a forgery into their English translation. In Genesis 16:11-12, they inserted a cheap name-calling "wild ass" for Ishmael, while the original scripts in the King James Version Bible called him "wild man":
"And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. (From the KJV Bible, Genesis 16:11-12)"
Ishmael was a wild man, and a "blessed" one by GOD Almighty (Gen. 17:19-21). He fought the pagan Arabs who practiced brutal slavery and degradation of women. It was part of the pagan Arabs' custom to bury daughters alive at the age of 4, because a birth of a female brought shame to the family. Many pagan Arabs used to practice it.
Ironically, the New Jerusalem Bible also agrees with this ridiculous pagan practice: "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss. (From the New Jerusalem Bible, Ecclesiasticus 22:3)"
The "blessed" Ishmael peace be upon him was Allah Almighty's Apostle: "And Isma'il and Elisha, and Jonas, and Lot: and to all We gave favour above the nations: (The Noble Quran, 6:86)"
"Also mention in the Book (the story of) Isma'il: He was (strictly) true to what he promised, and he was an apostle (and) a prophet. (The Noble Quran, 19:54)"
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him has a direct blood relationship with Prophet Ishmael peace be upon him. Before Prophet Muhammad became a Prophet at the age of 40, he was a well-respected and honored person among his people. The pagans used him to judge between their affairs. They also used to trust him with their wealth. He was called "Al-Sadiq, Al-Ameen", which means "The Honest, the Trust Worthy".
When Prophet Muhammad became the Messenger of Allah Almighty, he brought the Divine Religion of Islam that ended the Judeo-Christian and pagan brutal slavery, lifted the status of women and gave them their rights, and brought Justice, Light and Mercy to the Arabs and to the Muslims world-wide.
GOD in the Bible will take His Kingdom from the Jews and give it to another Nation:
The following is an email that sent to me by brother Silent Wisdom; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him. I did, however, add points to the article/email.
From: silentwisdom_2002@yahoo.com
(Silent Wisdom)
To: Osama Abdallah
Subj: Muhammad in the Bible!
Date: 6/28/02 2:08:27 PM Central Daylight Time
As'Salamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wa'Barakatu brother,
Here is some Further proofs about Prophecies of the Bible about Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)..
Habakkuk
3:3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran.
Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.
3:4 And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there
was the hiding of his power.
3:5 Before him went the pestilence, and burning coals went forth at his feet.
In fact This is a Clear Prophecy about Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), as he was the Only Prophet coming from "Mount of Paran" in Mecca..This is a Clear Verse.
Psalms
118:22 The stone which the builders refused is become the
head stone of the corner.
118:23 This is the LORD's doing; it is marvelous in our eyes.
118:24 This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
Matthew
21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God
shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
21:44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall
fall, it will grind him to powder.
What other nation beside the modern Muslims of today bow down to GOD Almighty in the most proper way? What other nation beside the modern Muslims Glorify GOD Almighty in their 5-daily Prayers, and fast the Month of Ramadan for Him?
Let's look at what GOD Almighty said about Ishmael, the father of the Muslims: "And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. (From the KJV Bible, Genesis 17:19-21)"
The Jews were GOD Almighty's chosen people: "We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book the Power of Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (The Noble Quran, 45:16)"
But after they utterly failed with GOD Almighty and His Messengers (Not Moses ever liked their actions, nor Jesus ever liked them and their killings of the Prophets):
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (From the KJV Bible, Matthew 23:37)"
"You have heard these things; look at them all. Will you not admit them? "From now on I will tell you of new things, of hidden things unknown to you. They are created now, and not long ago; you have not heard of them before today. So you cannot say, 'Yes, I knew of them.' You have neither heard nor understood; from of old your ear has not been open. Well do I know how treacherous you are; you were called a rebel from birth. For my own name's sake I delay my wrath; for the sake of my praise I hold it back from you, so as not to cut you off. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 48:6-9)"
"So I will disgrace the dignitaries of your temple, and I will consign Jacob to destruction and Israel to scorn. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 43:28)"
"But now, all you who light fires and provide yourselves with flaming torches, go, walk in the light of your fires and of the torches you have set ablaze. This is what you shall receive from my hand: You will lie down in torment. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 50:11)"
They became cursed, and GOD Almighty removed His Kingdom from them and gave it to another nation. That nation is non other than the "blessed" Muslims who came from the "blessed" Ishmael.
The liars of the NIV Bible had inserted a forgery into their English translation. In Genesis 16:11-12, they inserted a cheap name-calling "wild ass" for Ishmael, while the original scripts in the King James Version Bible called him "wild man":
"And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. (From the KJV Bible, Genesis 16:11-12)"
Ishmael was a wild man, and a "blessed" one by GOD Almighty (Gen. 17:19-21). He fought the pagan Arabs who practiced brutal slavery and degradation of women. It was part of the pagan Arabs' custom to bury daughters alive at the age of 4, because a birth of a female brought shame to the family. Many pagan Arabs used to practice it.
Ironically, the New Jerusalem Bible also agrees with this ridiculous pagan practice: "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss. (From the New Jerusalem Bible, Ecclesiasticus 22:3)"
The "blessed" Ishmael peace be upon him was Allah Almighty's Apostle: "And Isma'il and Elisha, and Jonas, and Lot: and to all We gave favour above the nations: (The Noble Quran, 6:86)"
"Also mention in the Book (the story of) Isma'il: He was (strictly) true to what he promised, and he was an apostle (and) a prophet. (The Noble Quran, 19:54)"
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him has a direct blood relationship with Prophet Ishmael peace be upon him. Before Prophet Muhammad became a Prophet at the age of 40, he was a well-respected and honored person among his people. The pagans used him to judge between their affairs. They also used to trust him with their wealth. He was called "Al-Sadiq Al-Ameen", which means "The Honest the Trust Worthy".
When Prophet Muhammad became the Messenger of Allah Almighty, he brought the Divine Religion of Islam that ended the Judeo-Christian and pagan brutal slavery, lifted the status of women and gave them their rights, and brought Justice, Light and Mercy to the Arabs and to the Muslims world-wide.
In Psalms 118:22 and Matthew 21:44, Both are Talking about a Stone, in Fact a Corner Stone that completes the Building of Prophets and God's Kingdom.
In Matthew 21:43, It's a Clear Warning from Jesus (peace be upon him) to Jews that the kingdom of God shall be taken away from them and will be given to another nation can serve it, This nation must be the Great nation of Ishmael mentioned in Bible..and definitely the nation of Islam ,followers of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
The word Stone (Corner Stone) in both verses was used by prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) himself referring to his similitude with other prophets:
Sahih Al Bukhari:
Volume 4, Book 56, Number 735:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "My similitude in comparison with the other prophets before me,
is that of a man who has built a house nicely and beautifully, except for a place of one
brick in a corner. The people go about it and wonder at its beauty, but say: 'Would that
this brick be put in its place!' So I am that brick, and I am the last of the
Prophets."
For further understanding to the Corner Stone mentioned in Psalms 118, Here is the earlier Verses of the Chapter:
118:10 All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the
LORD will I destroy them.
118:11 They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD
I will destroy them.
118:12 They compassed me about like bees; they are quenched as the fire of thorns: for in
the name of the LORD I will destroy them.
118:13 Thou hast thrust sore at me that I might fall: but the LORD helped me.
118:14 The LORD is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.
118:15 The voice of rejoicing and salvation is in the tabernacles of the righteous: the
right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.
118:16 The right hand of the LORD is exalted: the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.
118:17 I shall not die, but live, and declare the works of the LORD.
118:18 The LORD hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.
118:19 Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the
LORD:
118:20 This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter.
118:21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.
Regards,
Salaam (peace)
To the reader, also please visit:
From www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm:
Muhammad (peace be upon him) was foretold in the Bible:
The sections here are:
1- Introductory Questions and my open challenge.
2- In the Gospel of John and New Testament.
3- In the Book of Isaiah.
4- In other Books in the Bible, and other Biblical Prophets
proving Islam.
5- The "lost people of Israel" are the people of Afghanistan and
Kashmir today.
See proofs from the Bible and
History. Cities were mentioned and documented.
Introductory Questions:
Why did GOD end His revelations with Muhammad and not with Jesus?
Answer to the question.
Question: What parts of the Bible do Muslims believe are
closest to the Truth? and Why?
Answer to the question.
* The Bible and the Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad) were written in a 3000-year and 200-year span respectively. They both contain a lot of Truth from GOD Almighty, and unfortunately, also a lot of falsehood and man-made corruption.
The Noble Quran, on the other hand, was documented as it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad, and Allah Almighty promised that He would keep it perfectly protected by Himself Personally:
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption). (The Noble Quran, 15:9)"
"Nay, this is a Glorious Quran, (inscribed) in a Tablet Preserved! (The Noble Quran, 85:21-22)"
Prophecies about Islam in the Bible - My open challenge to anyone to refute this.
In the Gospel of John and New Testament:
In the Gospel of John: Muhammad is mentioned by the name and was foretold in the Gospel of John. This is a must read article! It proves that Jesus peace be upon him predicted for the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to come after him.
The Aramaic Bible predicts the coming of Muhammad by the exact word.
Further proofs from the Aramaic Bible Society. A very good proof from the Aramaic Bible Society web site regarding Muhammad's name mentioned in the Greek Bible. This is a must visit link!!.
Jesus told the Jews that GOD Almighty will take His Kingdom from them and give it to the Muslims.
My detailed rebuttal to a Christian rebuttal about Muhammad was foretold by Jesus. I addressed all of their rebuttal points and refuted them. The article also talks about the 24,000 books that the current Bible's 66 books came from, and how that makes the current 66 chosen books extremely unreliable and doubtful.
In the Book of Isaiah:
In the Book of Isaiah: Isaiah in the Bible foretold the story of "Al-alak" that is in the Noble Quran about Muhammad. Isaiah in the Bible foretold the story of "Al-alak" in the Noble Quran which happened to Muhammad and never happened to any other Prophet. It is the story where the Angel Gabriel repeatedly commands the Prophet to read, and the Prophet (i.e. Muhammad) repeatedly replies "I can't read".
Prophet Muhammad was foretold in Isaiah 42.
Muhammad in the Bible, (Isaiah 60), Pilgrimage to Mecca..!
Islamic Fasting was predicted by Isaiah in the Bible.
In other Books in the Bible, and other Biblical Prophets proving Islam:
Deuteronomy 18:18's Prophet is non other than Prophet Muhammad.
The "great nation" of Ishmael and its definition in the Bible.
The story of King Heraclius of the Byzantine and the foretold Prophet (Muhammad) in the Bible. See how he was convinced that Prophet Muhammad of Arabia was indeed the foretold Prophet that Jesus predicted to come.
The emigration of the Muslims to Madina was foretold in the Bible.
The story of the 10,000 Muslims who liberated Mecca (Paran) in the Bible.
Pilgrimage of Ezekiel to Mecca.
See the Proof that "Paran" in the Bible is "Mecca". Paran in the Bible is Mecca today - See the Archeological discoveries that prove Mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia.
Muhammad in the Bible; Standing upon Mount Arafat.
A great site that also shows Muhammad being foretold in the Bible.
Prophecy about Muhammad in Song of Songs 5:16. Exposes the deliberate mistranslation of the Verse to disprove the coming of Muhammad peace be upon him.
Muhammad in the Old and New Testaments.
Muhammad in the Bible, by Sheikh (Minister) Ahmed Deedat.
Jesus' Sacred place among Muslims. By the Christian Scholar Michael Wolfe.
Prophecies from Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
Also please visit Muhammad's (peace be upon him) life, prophecies and responses to all of the false charges against him.
The "lost people of Israel" are the people of Afghanistan and Kashmir today:
He wrote:
Moving from
the ridiculous to the sublime, the religion based upon pagan practices has a chapter
entitled: The Messenger is Protected by Allah from
Participating in Pagan Practices. The first Hadith is from Ali, the
prophets adopted son and his son-in-law, the patriarch of the Shiites, and one
of many assassinated Caliphs. He said, I heard the
Messenger saying, I was only tempted to take part in heathen practices on two
occasions, and both times Allah prevented me from doing what I wanted. After that I was
never tempted to evil, right up to the time when Allah honored me by making me his
Messenger. Since each of Islams pillars was conceived by a
pagan, I believe we have caught the prophet in another lie.
The temptation behind us, we move to one of todays more common
sins: sex in the workplace. Muhammad married his boss. Ishaq:82
Khadija was a wealthy and respected merchant. She was
determined and intelligent, possessing many properties. She was the best born woman of the
Quraysh, and she was the richest, too. Tabari
VI:48 She used to employ men to
engage in trade with her property and gave them a share of the profit, for the Quraysh
were merchants. When she heard of Muhammads truthfulness and nobility of character,
she sent for him and proposed that he should go to Syria and engage in the trade with her
property. She would give him more than she gave other men who traded for her
.
The sentence rambles on to say that Islams matriarch sent one of her slaves to keep
tabs on the neophyte merchant.
When they reached Syria he halted in the
shade of a tree near a monks cell. The monk went up to Maysarah [Khadijas
slave], and said, Who is this man who has halted beneath this tree? Maysarah
replied, He is a man of Quraysh, one of the people of the Haram sacred
precinct. No one has ever halted beneath this tree but a prophet, said
the monk. A sixth century monk could never have seen a prophet.
Further, there is no evidence that a Christian or Jewish prophet ever set foot in Syria.
The next line puts us in the precarious position of wondering who is
lying. If the following Tradition is true, the Qurans assertion that there
were no miracles associated with Muhammad is false.
They assert that Maysarah saw two angels shading him from the sun as he rode his
camel.
When he arrived in Mecca, he brought
Khadija her property, which she sold for twice the price.
She sent for the Messenger
and, it is reported, said to him, Cousin, your kinship to me, your standing among
your people
make you a desirable match. She offered herself to him in
marriage. In one of historys great ironies, the most
independent, successful, and liberated woman of her day played a pivotal role in assuring
that a billion women after her would be deprived of these things.
Muhammad married moneya woman old enough to be his mother.
Whats more, the would-be prophet married his boss. While this is questionable, it is
not illegal. Nor is what happened next. Tabari VI:49
Khadija sent a message to the Muhammad inviting him to
take her
She called her father to her house, plied him with wine until he was drunk,
slaughtered a cow, anointed him with perfume, and clothed him in a striped robe; then she
sent for Muhammad and his uncles. When they came in, her father married him to her. When
he recovered from his intoxication, he said, What is this meat, this perfume, and
this garment? She replied, You have married me to Muhammad bin Abdallah.
I have not done so, he said. Would I do this when the greatest men of
Mecca have asked for you and I have not agreed?
While achieving a prophetic marriage through alcoholic inebriation
isnt religious, its the last line that should give us pause. Muslims have
contrived scores of pre-Islamic Hadiths to elevate Muhammads standing among his
people. Yet according to Khadijas father, he was a nobody. Further, he was hardly a
prize specimen either: Tabari IX:157
The Messenger was neither tall nor short. He had a large head and beard with
big black eyes. His palms and feet were calloused; he had large joints, his face was white
with a reddish tinge, his chest hair was long, and when he walked he bent forward as if he
were descending a slope.
The next ten years passed without a single word from Tabari. While
Muslims claim to know what the monk said in Syria, they havent a clue what happened
in Mecca. Ishaq has but one line: Ishaq:83 Khadija was the mother of all of the Apostles
children except Ibrahim [who was born to one of Muhammads sex slaves], namely
al-Qasim, al-Tayyib, and al-Tahir. They all died in paganism. The
implication here is that the prophets boys are all roasting in hell.
The story of the greatest con ever sold resumes with this: Tabari
VI:50 We have mentioned the
conflicting reports about the Prophets marriage to Khadija. Ten years later, the
Quraysh demolished the Kaaba and then rebuilt it. According to Ibn Ishaq, this was
in the Messengers thirty-fifth year. The reason for demolition of the Kaaba
was that it consisted of loose stones rising to somewhat above a mans height, and
they wished to make it higher and put a roof over it, since some men had stolen treasures
kept in its interior.
All along I have told you that the Kaaba was little more than a
rock pile. This Islamic Hadith confirms the ignobility of Allahs House.
And this is important. There is no chance that a roofless six-foot high collection of
loose rocks could have survived the rigors of two millennia of flash floods and searing
sandstorms. Not only is there no written or oral legacy connecting Muhammad, Mecca, and
the Kaaba with Abraham, there is no physical evidence either. The center of the
Islamic faith, Allahs House, on which the whole Islamic world bows and turns, was a
rock pile for rock gods.
Tabari, who reported Hadith claiming Allah had raised the Kaaba
above the floodwaters, now says: The Kaaba had
been destroyed when the people of Noah were drowned, and Allah commanded Abraham and
Ishmael to rebuild it on its original foundations. This they did as stated in the
Quran 2:127. When Abraham and Ishmael were raising the foundations of the
House [they said], Lord! Accept [this] from us. Not only
is the Quranic dialog gibberish, as usual, and the circumstances preposterous,
its idiotic following the assertion that Allahs House was a pile of loose
stones. Muslims had no concept of time. The twenty-six hundred year chasm and
thousand-mile divide that separate Abraham from Muhammads Kaaba cannot be
crossed.
Tabari VI:52 The Kaaba had not had any custodians since its
destruction in the time of Noah. Then Allah commanded Abraham to settle his son by the
Kaaba, wishing thereby to show a mark of esteem to one whom he later ennobled by
means of his Prophet Muhammad. Now we are being told that Allah
esteemed the 20th century B.C. Ishmael by way of the 7th century A.D. Muhammad. Abraham and his son Ishmael were custodians of the
Kaaba after the time of Noah. At the time, Mecca was uninhabited
. Since
even the Islamic Hadiths arent bold enough to move Abraham from Canaan to Mecca, how
was he the custodian? And if the place was uninhabited from 2000 B.C. to 500 A.D., why
pile rocks in Mecca? It cant be the center of worship if no one was there to
worship. So whats the point?
Tabari tells us that the Jurhum became the custodians of the
Kaaba. He simply skipped over the intervening 2,500 years between its alleged
founding and the Jurhum presence. If you recall, the Jurhum clan ousted the Khuzaa
tribe from their campsites around Mecca around 500 A.D. According to the Tradition, they
acted badly, misappropriated the wealth which had been
presented to the Kaaba and oppressed those who came to Mecca. Their behavior became
so unrestrained that when one of them could not find a place in which to fornicate he
would go into the Kaaba and do it there. It is asserted that Isaf fornicated with
Nailah in the interior of the Kaaba and that they were transformed into two
stones. During the Jahiliyyah [period of pre-Islamic Ignorance] any person who acted
wrongfully or oppressively in Mecca, perished on the spot. This
fanciful pagan milieu formed the basis of Islam. Allah
sent a bleeding of the nose and a plague of ants against the Jurhum and destroyed them,
while Khuzaa expelled those who survived
Amir felt that he would be defeated,
so he brought out the two gazelles of the Kaaba and the sacred Black Stone.
The irreverent blend of Jewish history and Arab mythology continues: Tabari
VI:55 The Kaaba was taken
over by the Khuzaa except three functions which were in the hands of the Mudar. The
first of these was the ijazah, the giving of permission to the pilgrims to leave
Arafat
The second function was the ifadah, the permission for the pilgrims to
disperse to Mina on the morning of the sacrifice. Two more Islamic
rituals associated with the hajj now have links to an ignoble pagan past. Ishaq:88 This state of affairs lasted until Allah sent
Muhammad and revealed to him and gave him the laws of his religion and the customs of the
pilgrimage. Following a hundred Hadith desperately trying to ascribe
the rites and rituals of Islam to the Jewish patriarchs, and a hundred more proclaiming
that they were derived from the pagan practices of Qusayy, one line contradicts them all.
There was however, a pre-Islamic pagan custom Muhammad disregarded. And
wouldnt you know it, it was the one he should have retained. The
third function was the nasi, the delaying or postponement of the sacred month by
intercalation. When Islam came, the sacred months had returned to their original times,
and Allah established them firmly and abolished the nasi.
Pre-Islamic Arabs, unlike civilized people around them, had yet to switch away from the
lunar calendar. But to their credit, they were at least observing intercalation to keep
their seasons intact. Muhammad abandoned intercalation, condemning Muslims to a 354-day
year. Not only didnt the pagan sacred months return to their original times, he
assured that they would never be established, forever floating around the solar year.
While foolish, the lunacy honored his gods lunar legacy.
One of the most revered Islamic legends comes from this period. A
series of Hadiths focused on Rebuilding of the
Kaaba begin with this report: Tabari VI:56
A relative of Abd Mahaf [Slave-to-the-Sun-God] had
stolen treasure from the Kaaba. They took him to a female Arab soothsayer, who,
using her occult skill, pronounced in rhyming prose that he should not enter Mecca for ten
years because of his violation of the sanctity of the Kaaba.
This Islamic Tradition confirms what I shared earlier. Soothsayers are Satanic; they are
occult mediums. Further, she recited in the same style of the Quranrhyming
prose. And more incriminating still, a Devil worshiper is being used to proclaim the
sanctity of the Kaaba.
The reason this story is included in the presentation of rebuilding
Allahs House is that the shrines low walls and open top made it easy for
looters to steal the gods. So when the Meccans found that: Ishaq:84 A ship belonging to a Greek merchant had been driven ashore
by rough seas at Jeddah and had been broken to pieces, they took its timbers and prepared
them for use in roofing the Kaaba. There was a Copt in Mecca who was a carpenter,
and thus they had both the materials and a craftsman ready at hand.
This serves to confirm the primitive nature of the Kaaba and of Mecca itself. There
was no source of wood, and without wood, there were no carpenters. Without wood and men to
work it, all buildings were open to the harsh elements. Mecca in the time of Muhammad was
a motley collection of open mud huts. This is important because Islam is said to have
arisen because the Meccans were flaunting their wealth. That simply wasnt possible.
The next transition is as disjointed as the Quran, and equally
revealing. There was a snake which used to come out of
the well in the Kaaba into which votive objects were thrown. It would lie on top of
the Kaaba wall every day to sun itself. It was a terror. There
are way too many Satanic symbols associated with Muhammad and Allah. Abraham was drawn
from Israel to Mecca by gods presence in the form of a snake. The same snake coiled
himself up, showing Abraham where to build the Kaaba. Now a snake is living inside
Allahs House. The snake and the apple sign on Muhammads back, are Satans
most enduring symbols.
Ishaq:84 People
were terrified of the snake because whenever anyone went near, it would draw itself up,
make a rustling noise, and open its mouth. One day, as it was lying on top of the
Kaaba as usual, Allah sent a bird which seized it and carried it off. [And who said
Allah couldnt do miracles.] On seeing this the Quraysh said, We may hope that
Allah is pleased with what we intend to do. We have craftsman and we have timber, while
Allah dealt with the snake. Tabari VI:56 This was fifteen years after the Sacrilegious War. Muhammad
was thirty-five. When they made the decision to demolish and rebuild the Kaaba, Abu
took a stone from it which leapt from his hand and returned to its place.
This Hadith, in context of Muhammads imminent involvement in the
Kaabas reconstruction and its Black Stone, strongly suggests that the
Meccans thought the Black Stone was Allah and that he/it actually lived in the
Kaaba. Ishaq:85 The
people were afraid to demolish the temple and withdrew in terror from it. Al-Walid said,
I will begin the demolition. He took up his pickaxe and walked up to the House
saying, O Kaaba, do not be afraid. O Allah we intend nothing but good.
Then he demolished part of it near the two corners. One of
Muhammads religious contemporaries is telling a rock pile not to be afraid.
Approaching Allah with a pickaxe, he says that he means him no harm. How is a pickaxe
threatening to God? And, if he were God, and you approached his House with a
pick, a carpenter, and some wood, dont you think he might figure it out?
In this final Tradition prior to the first Quranic revelation,
Muhammad is shown personally participating in the superstitions of his peoples
stone-worshiping milieu. Tabari VI:58 A man of the Quraysh who was among those demolishing it
thrust a crowbar between two stones to pry one of them up. When the stone moved, the whole
of Mecca shook. They knew they had reached the foundations. The clans then gathered stones
to rebuild the Kaaba. Each clan gathered separately and built separately. When they
reached the place where the Black Stone was to be put they began to dispute about it,
since every clan wished to lift the Stone to its place.
Once again we are confronted with a stark reality. Allahs House,
the center of Islam, was a rock pile and it was rebuilt in like fashion. The stones were
not hewn, cut, or mortared. There was no plan. They were just collected and piled. And
once more we are forced to see the sacred Black Stone for what it wasAllah.
This next tidbit is particularly incriminating. Ishaq:85 The Quraysh found in the corner a writing in
Syriac. They could not understand it until a Jew read it for them. It read: I am
Allah the Lord of Mecca. I created it on the day that I created heaven and earth and
formed the sun and moon. God writing in Syriac, not Arabic,
conflicts with the Qurans claim that Arabic was Allahs language.
Further, since written Arabic evolved from Syriac and migrated to Mecca, its clear
that the written language of the Quran was unknown to the Meccans at the time
Muhammad claims the surahs were revealed to him. Oops!
The Quraysh remained in this state for
five days, and then they gathered in the mosque to consult together and to reach an
equitable agreement. We are reminded that mosques preceded Islam and
that prostration, the Islamic prayer position from which the word was derived, was part of
idolatrous worship. It is apparent that relatively little of Islam was invented by
Muhammad.
The payoff line of this Hadith is upon us. Tabari
VI:59 Men of the Quraysh said,
Make the first man who comes in at the door of this mosque the arbiter of our
difference so that he may judge on the matter. The first man was Muhammad, and when
they saw him they said, This is the trustworthy one with whom we are satisfied. This
is Muhammad. He came up to them and they told him about the matter and he said,
Bring me a cloak. They brought him one, and he took the Black Stone and placed
it on it with his own hands. Then he said, Let each clan take one side of the cloak,
and then lift it up all together. They did so, and when they had brought it to its
place he put it in position with his own hands.
I do not know if Muhammad actually suggested this solution. But I know
that a man who reveres a stone is no wiser than the rock he reveres.
My response:
The Prophet peace be upon him was never tempted to associate any idols with Allah Almighty. Even the dubious quote above says that he got tempted twice before he became a Messenger. Even if we were to take the dubious quote above as Truth, it still doesn't mean anything, because the Prophet peace be upon him got tempted BEFORE HE BECAME A MESSENGER. Temptation does not mean he actually fell into the sin itself. So what ever your point is, it is irrelevant.
Even Jesus in your pornful bible; the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", got tempted and DURING HIS PROPHETHOOD:
"Then Jesus was led by the spirit up into the wilderness to be tempted by the Devil. After he had fasted forty days and forty nights, then he felt hungry." (Mathew 4:1-2)
If Jesus was your Creator, as your polytheist trinity pagan religion claims, then how can he even REMOTELY allow himself to get tempted!
Also, Jesus, your so-called Creator, begged GOD Almighty to save him from crucifixion, and he prostrated with his face down on the ground praying and begging GOD Almighty to save him. Not only that, but he also compromised his own teachings about not doing repetitive prayers to GOD Almighty. He stayed all night long praying the same prayer over and over and over!
To the reader, please visit: Jesus is a hypocrite for bowing down to GOD only during his desperate times. See another proof in the Bible that Jesus can not be the Creator of the Universe.
As to the hadiths, again, throughout my previous rebuttals, I've said all along that the hadiths were corrupt. You have mentioned nothing new. On the contrary, this debunks your points and purpose about quoting from the Al-Tabari and Ishaq throughout your entire book as if the quotes were as reliable as the Noble Quran itself.
Like I mentioned above, the hadiths were literally documented 100s of years after the Prophet's, peace be upon him, death. Not everything you read is accurate and was necessarily told by the Prophet word for word, or even if at all! It is important, if you wish to be objective and honest, to put the Noble Quran as the center for any Islamic argument. If the Noble Quran makes a claim, then it is definitely agreed upon by all Muslims, and it is perfectly authentic. Otherwise, GOD Almighty only Knows about what is true and what is false regarding the narrations that you use in Hadiths and Sunnah books.
The "Sahih Bukhari" or "Authentic Bukhari" in English was the first volume to be compiled. Bukhari is not an Arabic name! Bukhari is derived from the word "Bukhara", which is a city in Afghanistan:
"We now come to the Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story. It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara......." (www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm)
For anyone who knows the Islamic history, this means that the Muslims spread Islam to the pagan Arabs, established the Islamic State in Arabia, then fought the Persians (Iranians) and the Romans; invaded the Persians and crushed the Romans, then fought the Hindus in Hindustan, invaded much of their lands such as "Pakistan", "Afghanistan", and much of the Indian territories, convert people there to Islam, and then Brother Bukhari appeared from his home town, Bukhara and decided to compile the Hadiths of "Sahih Bukhari".
Are these narrations all 100% perfect and reliable? Any person with the least atom of a brain would say no. I am not saying that all of the Hadiths must be rejected. But for us to day to have close to 2,000,000 of them is quite ridiculous, because they can't all have been written down during our Prophet's times in Arabia. Most of the Hadiths' chains of narrations today have 10s of narrators in them. In the Hadith books, you would see something like the following:
"About such and such, that he heard his father say that such and such said, that he heard such and such say, that he heard such and such say, etc...." Most of the narrations' links have tons of narrators in them, many times more than 10, and these people would be generations after each others! In other words, they're not people at the same age or the same group. And the worst dilemma of all, is that many of these chain of narrations have broken links in them, meaning, that two or three generations are missing in the chain!
Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic. Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death. Their narrations were orally transmitted by others. Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:
"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam). (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"
Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:
From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:
Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:
In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum. It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words! The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word. In Arabic, a word is not original. There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention. This can change the entire meaning of the whole word and sentence.
That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.
Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.
For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful. I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies. But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous! Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration. I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.
That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the
Truth and reject the others.
Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all
written during the Prophet's time. Some or even many of them were probably written
down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I
was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly
all written during the Prophet's time.
I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....
Example about my own name to simplify things:
Take "Osama" for example. First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent. The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama". Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato". The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.
When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising. Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual. I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.
THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".
To the reader, please visit: What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe
are closest to the Truth, and Why?
Back to My Rebuttals, and exposing the lies of the Answering Islam team section.
Rebuttals to Craig Winn - "The Prophet of Doom" book.
Contradictions and History of Corruption in the Bible.
Questions about Jesus that trinitarian Christians don't have logical answers for.
What parts of the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth? and Why?
"Allah" was GOD Almighty's original Name in the Bible according to the Hebrew and Aramaic sources.
Scientific Miracles in Islam and the Noble Quran.
Most of the Bible's books and gospels were written by mysterious people!
Jesus mentioned Muhammad by the name in the Bible.
Did Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the crucifixion of Jesus? It supports Islam's claims about Jesus peace be upon him never died on the cross. I also addressed John 19:36-37 from the Bible and proved that Jesus never got crucified, since GOD Almighty promised that he will protect Jesus' body and not let even a single bone be broken. My question to all Christians is: How in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on the cross without any penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the feet's bones?! I also added refutations to Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12, Zechariah 12:10 and Psalm 34:20, which supposedly prove the Christians' belief about Jesus crucifixion. I proved that this dogma has no truth what so ever and exposed the wrong Trinitarian English translation of Zechariah 12:10.