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My rebuttal to Silas' "Rebuttal to A. Meherally's response" article:

This article is a rebuttal to Silas' article, which is located at: http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/meherally_pp.htm

 

He wrote:

Answer to A. Meherally's reaction to my paper on

Islamic Terrorism

by Silas

Previously I had no intention to responding to Meherally’s "response" to my article on Islamic terrorism written about 3 years ago.

Meherally’s so called "response" is poor, and of its own merit does not deserve a reply from me. However, a close fellow Christian has asked me to write a short answer to Meherally’s work.

 

My response:

Your arrogance and stupidity are what's causing you to say such ridiculous comments about my dear brother in Islam Akberally Meherally; the owner of www.mostmerciful.com.  May Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

Your arrogance had been debunked and trashed to the lowest level at my rebuttal section to all of your articles at: www.answering-christianity.com/silas_rebuttals.htm.   I'd love to see you attempt to even grow a brain and try to refute this section.

So much for your arrogance and trash.

 

He wrote:

And so I shall. I will not address every question Meherally raises, I will not respond to all of his points. A reader of average intelligence and analytical skills will be able to see the lack of actual "response content" in Meherally’s work and understand that just because someone puts something on paper is not reason in and of itself to warrant a reply.

 

My response:

Oh really?  We'll see about this.

 

He wrote:

I also point the reader to a more recent, and much more thorough, article I’ve written on Islamic terrorism and violence, titled America, Islam, Jihad, and Terrorism

 

My response:

No kidding!  I have a little present for you.  This article of yours had been refuted at:

Islam, Jihad, War, Captives and terrorism section.


What about the Bible's cruelty and terrorism?

There are several Verses in the Bible that seem to be very cruel.  Let us look at few of them:

Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." 

Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children?  Why kill all of the non-virgin women?  Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars.  Women rarely fought in battle fields.   So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic.  He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"  

"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin."  This is verified at this link.

Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins? 

I wonder how Silas would reply to these verses from the x-rated pornographic Bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like "wine".

Did you also know that fathers are allowed to insert their fingers into their daughters' vaginas in the porn-full bible?

My Question:  My question to Silas is, using your own standards, does this also make your porn-full bible an "invalid" book?

 

He wrote:

OVERVIEW

I’ve gone through Meherally’s article a couple of times. I have not analyzed every paragraph in detail, but, I noticed that what Meherally calls a "response" is anything but. It is more a polemic and personal attack towards me than a response to the material in my article. Why did Meherally fail to actually address the points I raise in my article? Why did Meherally fail to examine Muhammad’s cruelties that I present?

 

My response:

Care to give us examples so we can discuss it here?

 

He wrote:

Actually, you’ve got to feel some sympathy for Meherally.

 

My response:

Oh please!  You're the one who needs the sympathy for being a polytheist trinitarian pagan.  You're the one who will oceans of sympathy, because you will spend your life burning in Hell for Eternity.

 

He wrote:

He has the unenviable task of trying to defend an evil religion – Islam, and an evil false prophet – Muhammad. This is not an easy task! Meherally knows that he cannot justify Muhammad’s brutalities to a Western audience. To a Muslim mind, almost any amount of cruelty can be justified if it is done in Allah’s name. But, people who have a sense of decent morality, know that Muhammad’s actions were barbaric and cruel. Consequently Meherally is unable to actually address the issues and chooses instead to attack me and put words in my mouth. His only method of justifying Muhammad’s evil is pointing to evil actions done by other people. But when it came down to addressing Muhammad’s sins, Meherally chose not to enter the field of battle.

 

My response:

Again, care to give us examples so that we can discuss them here?  You did talk about this subject before in your articles, and you made reference to the Jews of Khaibar whom the Prophet cleansed away from the Holy Land of Medina after they betrayed him.   Well, if you're referring to your same old boring argument, then here is my response to it:

From: My rebuttal to Silas' "Muhammad and the Treaty of Hudaybiyya" article

The treaty of Hudaybiyya was indeed a victory to the Muslims, because it gave the Muslims a break, and it allowed them to spread Islam to other non-Muslims and increase in numbers.

The treaty lasted only for 2 years, and the Muslims' numbers increased from around 1,000 to 10,000.  The Muslims after the pagans annulled the treaty by raiding in the middle of the night a Muslim village and killing several men in it, liberated Mecca with their army of 10,000 men.  The Bible's Old Testament even prophesied about the Muslims liberating Mecca with 10,000 men [1] [2].

Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran did not lie when He told Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him:

"Verily We have granted thee a manifest Victory: That God may forgive thee thy faults of the past and those to follow; fulfil His favour to thee; and guide thee on the Straight Way; And that God may help thee with powerful help. It is He Who sent down tranquillity into the hearts of the Believers, that they may add faith to their faith;- for to God belong the Forces of the heavens and the earth; and God is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom;- That He may admit the men and women who believe, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow, to dwell therein for aye, and remove their ills from them;- and that is, in the sight of God, the highest achievement (for man),-  (The Noble Quran, 48:1-5)"

Indeed, Allah Almighty did grant victory to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and to the Muslims.  Tell us Silas, what happened after 2 years from the Hudaybiyya treaty?  Didn't the Muslims liberate Mecca with an army of 10,000 men after the pagans annulled the treaty with their betraying attack on a Muslim village?

So, was the Noble Quran Truthful or not?

As to the Jews of Khaibar, the reason why the Jews were cleansed out from the Holy land of Medina is because they betrayed the Muslims during the battle of Trench, where there were 3,000 pagans Vs. 700 Muslims.  The Muslims made treaty with the Jews in Medina, to protect the northern part of the city, while the Muslims defend the southern part.  But what can you say, Jews are Jews no matter how much you try to improve them, "except for a few of them (The Noble Quran, 5:13)"Nor Moses or Jesus ever liked them.  In fact, Jesus told them that GOD Almighty will remove His Kingdom from them and give it to the Muslims.   And later Prophet Muhammad suffered the same thing from them.  They betrayed the Muslims and a group of pagans to attack from the north.

Have not Allah Almighty brought victory to the Muslims by sending winds that blinded the infidels and effected not the Muslims, and caused for the Muslims to defeat the pagans a sound defeat, and have them run away back to where they came from, then the Muslims wouldn't been literally whipped out:

"Behold! they came on you from above you and from below you, and behold, the eyes became dim and the hearts gaped up to the throats, and ye imagined various (vain) thoughts about God! In that situation were the Believers tried: they were shaken as by a tremendous shaking. And behold! The Hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease (even) say: "God and His Apostle promised us nothing but delusion!" Behold! A party among them said: "Ye men of Yathrib! ye cannot stand (the attack)! therefore go back!" And a band of them ask for leave of the Prophet, saying, "Truly our houses are bare and exposed," though they were not exposed they intended nothing but to run away. And if an entry had been effected to them from the sides of the (city), and they had been incited to sedition, they would certainly have brought it to pass, with none but a brief delay! And yet they had already covenanted with God not to turn their backs, and a covenant with God must (surely) be answered for. Say: "Running away will not profit you if ye are running away from death or slaughter; and even if (ye do escape), no more than a brief (respite) will ye be allowed to enjoy!" Say: "Who is it that can screen you from God if it be His wish to give you punishment or to give you Mercy?" Nor will they find for themselves, besides God, any protector or helper. Verily God knows those among you who keep back (men) and those who say to their brethren, "Come along to us", but come not to the fight except for just a little while. Covetous over you. Then when fear comes, thou wilt see them looking to thee, their eyes revolving, like (those of) one over whom hovers death: but when the fear is past, they will smite you with sharp tongues, covetous of goods. Such men have no faith, and so God has made their deeds of none effect: and that is easy for God. They think that the Confederates have not withdrawn; and if the Confederates should come (again), they would wish they were in the deserts (wandering) among the Bedouins, and seeking news about you (from a safe distance); and if they were in your midst,  (The Noble Quran, 33:10-20)"


Also, what about the Bible's cruelty and terrorism?

There are several Verses in the Bible that seem to be very cruel.  Let us look at few of them:

Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." 

Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children?  Why kill all of the non-virgin women?  Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars.  Women rarely fought in battle fields.   So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic.  He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"  

"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin."  This is verified at this link.

Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins? 

I wonder how Silas would reply to these verses from the x-rated pornographic Bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like "wine".

Did you also know that fathers are allowed to insert their fingers into their daughters' vaginas in the porn-full bible?

My Question:  My question to Silas is, using your own standards, does this also make your porn-full bible an "invalid" book?

 

He wrote:

BASIC READING AND UNDERSTANDING

I begin by encouraging the reader to take the time to thoroughly read and understand what he is reading. Meherally’s response exhibits what most Muslim apologists / polemicists exhibit: a poor effort at understanding what they read. In their haste to scribble out a "response" they fail to understand the writings they address, and the author’s reasoning. So many Muslim’s pat themselves on the back, thinking they have actually "refuted" something simply because they have barked, called the author a few names, and made some partially relevant reply. Much time could be saved if the "responder", in this case Meherally, would bother to take a breath or two, slow down, and make a sincere effort to understand what he is reading, prior to hacking away on their keyboard.

 

My response:

It's funny how you believe in yourself way too much.  That's not called confidence.  It's called stupidity mixed with the arrogance odor.  It's not a good combination.  You need to get rid of this disease, because it's making you look like a total joker.

 

He wrote:

RESPONSE

Below are the points Meherally raises that I will address.

1) Meherally objects to my statement that about one half of all terrorist groups in the world are Islamic in nature, he wrote:

After reading the above historical facts, I hope you would realize how biased is your rendering and remove the following paragraph from your article: "Not surprisingly, examination of the websites that deal with terrorism show that about one half of all terrorist groups in the world are Islamic in nature."

Meherally’s historical "facts", contain some errors, but what do any of his historical "facts" have to with my point of:

"Not surprisingly, examination of the websites that deal with terrorism show that about one half of all terrorist groups in the world are Islamic in nature."

What Meherally exhibits is a lack of basic reading and comprehension skills. Had he bothered to read and understand the article before he hastily replied I probably wouldn’t have to spoon-feed him an answer:

 

My response:

Whether or not half of the world's terrorist groups are "Islamic by nature" is not important.  What's important here is why they came to existence.  This topic is way too big to sum up in a paragraph or two.  But I did write thorough articles regarding September 11, and where does Islam stand on this issue and all similar issues and "terrorist" activities:

Note:  Even in the Bible, there is the "a life for a life" rule.

My explanation to the "Attack" on the US from the Islamic perspective.  See the debate that I made up between pro and anti Sept. 11 attack on the US using the Noble Quran for both sides.  You judge for yourself.  Warning to the reader:   This article contains disturbing pictures of deformed Iraqi children from the US Deplete Uranium Bombs.

Was 9/11 Prophesized in Islam?

If the US bombs a Muslim country with a Nuclear bomb, would Islam then allow for the Muslims to bomb the Americans with Nuclear Weapons?

Is the suicide bombing in Israel allowed in Islam?

Suicide Bombing in the Bible.


Also, what about the Bible's cruelty and terrorism?

There are several Verses in the Bible that seem to be very cruel.  Let us look at few of them:

Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." 

Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children?  Why kill all of the non-virgin women?  Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars.  Women rarely fought in battle fields.   So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic.  He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"  

"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin."  This is verified at this link.

Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins? 

I wonder how Silas would reply to these verses from the x-rated pornographic Bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like "wine".

Did you also know that fathers are allowed to insert their fingers into their daughters' vaginas in the porn-full bible?

My Question:  My question to Silas is, using your own standards, does this also make your porn-full bible an "invalid" book?

 

He wrote:

In my original article, I provide the readers with a detailed list of law enforcement and anti-terrorist websites that list terrorist organizations throughout the world. These include many non-Muslim terrorist groups as well. Below in green is the quote from my original article, (one that Meherally forgot to reference):

ISLAMIC TERRORISM IN THE WORLD TODAY

There are a fair amount of websites that document the actions and intentions of the many Islamic terrorist groups operating throughout the world today. As true Muslims, these people will use violence against anyone who hinders their aims or offends their religious beliefs. Here is a partial listing of a number of websites I've seen on the internet.


http://www.emergency.com/cntrterr.htm
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http://www.state.gov/www/global/terrorism/1997report/
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http://www.hri.org/docs/USSD-Terror/97/mideast.html
overview of Middle East terrorism
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yearly overview
http://www.hri.org/docs/USSD-Terror/
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http://www.terrorism.com
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http://polisci.home.mindspring.com/ptd.html
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http://polisci.home.mindspring.com/ptd_incidents_1998.html
62 documented incidents - 31 by Muslims
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http://polisci.home.mindspring.com/ptd_middle_africa.html
listing of Mid-east Muslim terrorist groups
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http://www.ict.org.il/
international terrorism group
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If these sites are still up (they are now at least 3 years old) please go to these sites for yourself and review the names of the terrorist groups given. You will see for yourself that about half of these groups are Muslim groups.

 

My response:

Again, whether or not half of the world's terrorist groups are "Islamic by nature" is not important.  What's important here is why they came to existence.   This topic is way too big to sum up in a paragraph or two.  But I did write thorough articles regarding September 11, and where does Islam stand on this issue and all similar issues and "terrorist" activities:

Note:  Even in the Bible, there is the "a life for a life" rule.

My explanation to the "Attack" on the US from the Islamic perspective.  See the debate that I made up between pro and anti Sept. 11 attack on the US using the Noble Quran for both sides.  You judge for yourself.  Warning to the reader:   This article contains disturbing pictures of deformed Iraqi children from the US Deplete Uranium Bombs.

Was 9/11 Prophesized in Islam?

If the US bombs a Muslim country with a Nuclear bomb, would Islam then allow for the Muslims to bomb the Americans with Nuclear Weapons?

Is the suicide bombing in Israel allowed in Islam?

Suicide Bombing in the Bible.

 

Again, what about the Bible's cruelty and terrorism?

There are several Verses in the Bible that seem to be very cruel.  Let us look at few of them:

Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." 

Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children?  Why kill all of the non-virgin women?  Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars.  Women rarely fought in battle fields.   So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic.  He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"  

"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin."  This is verified at this link.

Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins? 

I wonder how Silas would reply to these verses from the x-rated pornographic Bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like "wine".

Did you also know that fathers are allowed to insert their fingers into their daughters' vaginas in the porn-full bible?

My Question:  My question to Silas is, using your own standards, does this also make your porn-full bible an "invalid" book?

 

He wrote:

Therefore my response to Meherally’s request:

Meherally, let me say it loud and clear: the majority of terrorist groups operating in the world today are Muslim groups. They are evil, they are inspired by fleshly and Satanic motivations, and they are manned by dedicated Muslims.

This is what I said 3 years ago, and this is what I say today. You have provided nothing to address the evidence that these evil Muslim groups are operating, killing innocent people, and doing it in accordance with their Allah’s will. The question Meherally should address to his readers is why are these groups run by devout Muslims?

 

My response:

They are not evil.  They are freedom fighters who are rising up against the US and its dogs from the dictatorship governments in the Islamic World.  Again, review my links:

Note:  Even in the Bible, there is the "a life for a life" rule.

My explanation to the "Attack" on the US from the Islamic perspective.  See the debate that I made up between pro and anti Sept. 11 attack on the US using the Noble Quran for both sides.  You judge for yourself.  Warning to the reader:   This article contains disturbing pictures of deformed Iraqi children from the US Deplete Uranium Bombs.

Was 9/11 Prophesized in Islam?

If the US bombs a Muslim country with a Nuclear bomb, would Islam then allow for the Muslims to bomb the Americans with Nuclear Weapons?

Is the suicide bombing in Israel allowed in Islam?

Suicide Bombing in the Bible.

 

Again, what about the Bible's cruelty and terrorism?

There are several Verses in the Bible that seem to be very cruel.  Let us look at few of them:

Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." 

Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children?  Why kill all of the non-virgin women?  Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars.  Women rarely fought in battle fields.   So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic.  He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"  

"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin."  This is verified at this link.

Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins? 

I wonder how Silas would reply to these verses from the x-rated pornographic Bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like "wine".

Did you also know that fathers are allowed to insert their fingers into their daughters' vaginas in the porn-full bible?

My Question:  My question to Silas is, using your own standards, does this also make your porn-full bible an "invalid" book?

 

He wrote:

The second point I will address.

2) Meherally accuses me of deliberately skipping a portion of Guillaume’s work. Below is Meherally’s statement.

SKIPPING OF A QUOTED TEXT:

If a reader was to open and start reading from  page 112 of A. Guillaume's translation of Muhammad ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah, one would notice that Silas has skipped an important portion of the quoted text. At the end of the Quoted Text, Silas writes, which again is a partial Truth and not the Truth: 

[Note:  two passages from the Quran are referenced:  [a] Sura 22:39-41, which I did not quote, and [b] Sura 2:193]

Silas has omitted ibn Ishaq's recorded notes about the order that the Apostle had received from Allah to fight (which happens to be the subject of Silas article) as well as the Verses of the Qur'an which ibn Ishaq had quoted. Below is the omitted text to be found on page 112 and 113. Words within { } are mine.

Response

My answer to Meherally accusation is similar to my answer to the first point: Meherally, please practice your reading and comprehension skills. You’re quick to write a "response" yet you exhibit such a lack of understanding. What I am asking of you, and of other Muslim "responders" is not difficult. Why don’t you bother to read the entire section, think about it, and grasp my points?

 

My response:

Instead of barking like a female dog in heat, do you care to be specific in your answer?  Brother Meherally showed specific points where he proved that you were untruthful.  Care to disprove his point and shed some light upon your reader?

 

He wrote:

Let me spoon-feed this to you as well:

 

My response:

You're pathetic!

 

He wrote:

Meherally, read the section heading, this is what it says:

BEGINNING OF MUHAMMAD'S VIOLENCE

What did I then detail? I recorded the situation behind Muhammad’s turning to violence, and I presented it in chronological reference – around his time of flight to Yathrib. That was my point. Relevant to that, there was nothing omitted. Some of my articles are long and when it is unnecessary to quote excessive material, I will not quote it. I wanted to show the readership when Muhammad started to use violence.

 

My response:

But have you given the whole picture to the reader, then the point would've been different.  The image that you portrayed would've been a whole light better about our beloved Prophet.  Instead, you chose to hide few paragraphs that were absolutely relevant to the core of your point because you knew that they would've gave a better picture of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.  They would've made him look like a self-defender instead of an offender!  You chose with your own tricks to deceive the reader from this Truth.

 

He wrote:

I do not criticize Muhammad for self-defense.

 

My response:

Yes you do by lying and making it sound like our Prophet was an offender instead of a self-defender.

 

He wrote:

Had you bothered to grasp what I was saying, you would not have had to make a big deal out of it.

 

My response:

Silas, it doesn't take an intelligent person to "grasp" your dumb articles.   It's not about us grasping your articles.  It's about you twisting the Truth and intentionally giving partial quotes to fit your polytheist trinity paganism.

 

He wrote:

Further, in my quote, I show the reader that there is more to the quote – notice the dots trailing the end of the sentence? Or, don’t you understand that those dots signify that there is more to the quote? Below is the quote from my article.

His apostle to fight and to protect himself against those who wronged them and treated them badly......[a]

Further, if my aim were to deceive my readership, I would not have provided them with a complete reference, including book name, author, publisher, page number, of what I was quoting.

 

My response:

Now you're being a wise donkey.  The dots that you provided have replaced the missing Truth that would've given a whole different picture about our beloved Prophet.

And the complete reference that you gave is not something extra special, because it is a must to give in order for the reader to read your article OBJECTIVELY!

Do you know what the word Objective means?

So again, don't act like a wise ass, because we're not like you here.  We're intelligent people.

 

He wrote:

The same is to be said w/r to the two Quranic quotes. If I wanted to deceive my readership, I would not provide the exact references for them to read.

 

My response:

Again, acting like a smart ass.  You're not doing your reader a favor when you give complete reference to your quote!!  Ever since when it's considered a favor from the writer to the reader by giving detailed references to the quotes that he quoted?

 

He wrote:

The point is that in this case they add nothing. I was simply detailing Muhammad’s chronological transition from not using violence (although he wanted to) to the time when he began to be violent.

 

My response:

The point here is that: The omitted paragraphs that you intentionally did not include would've proved that Prophet Muhammad was a self-defender rather than an offender!   This by itself refutes your intentional lie about Prophet Muhammad being a "violent" person.

In Islam, Muslims are not allowed to start wars and to be violent:

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors.  (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

"Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Quran).  (The Noble Quran, 25:52)"

"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: For thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.  (The Noble Quran, 16:125)"

 

He wrote:

Finally, let me address an issue Meherally raises. With respect to Muhammad’s allowance to fight, Meherally wrote:

Upon reading of this final passage one can visualize the ULTIMATE TRUTH. Although Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), had received "the order to fight" the Prophet DID NOT FIGHTand instead migrated to Medina.

Meherally does not even bother to learn his own religious history. Meherally writes that Muhammad "DID NOT FIGHT and instead migrated to Medina", implying that Muhammad shunned violence. This is not true. Muhammad did not fight because he was unable to fight. Take a look at the text.

When Quraysh became insolent towards God and rejected His gracious purpose, accused His prophet of lying, and ill treated and exiled those who served Him and proclaimed His unity, believed in His prophet and held fast to His religion, He gave permission to His apostle to fight and to protect himself against those who wronged them and treated them badly.

The first verse which was sent down on this subject from what I have heard from Urwa b. Al-Zubayr and other learned persons was: "Permission is given to those who fight because they have been wronged. God is well able to help them, --- those who have been driven out of their houses without right only because they said God is our Lord. Had not God used some men to keep back others, cloister and churches and oratories and mosques wherein the name of God is constantly mentioned would have been destroyed. Assuredly God will help those who help Him. God is Almighty. Those who if we make them strong in the land will establish prayer, pay the poor-tax, enjoin kindness, and forbid iniquity. To God belongs the end of matters [a]. The meaning is "I have allowed them to fight only because they have been unjustly treated while their sole offense against men has been that they worship God. When they are in the ascendant they will establish prayer, pay the poor-tax, enjoin kindness, and forbid iniquity, i.e., the prophet and his companions all of them." Then God sent down to him: "Fight them so that there be no more seduction," [b] i.e. until no believer is seduced from his religion. "And the religion is God's,", i.e. Until God alone is worshipped."

When God had given permission to fight and this clan of the Ansar had pledged their support to him in Islam and to help him and his followers, and the Muslims who had taken refuge with them, the apostle commanded his companions, the emigrants of his people and those Muslims who were with him in Mecca, to emigrate to Medina and to link up with their brethren the Ansar. "God will make for you brethren and houses in which you may be safe." So they went out in companies, and the apostle stayed in Mecca waiting for his Lord’s permission to leave Mecca and migrate to Medina."

Muhammad wisely chose not to fight because he knew he and his followers were weak and would be annihilated. Instead, Muhammad wisely chose to run. He now had a place of refuge north of Mecca, and off he and his followers ran. It was from that base the Muhammad began his violence.

 

My response:

As I proved above, Allah Almighty Commanded the Muslims to only fight when they have to and to not "transgress limits":

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors.  (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

"Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Quran).  (The Noble Quran, 25:52)"

"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: For thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.  (The Noble Quran, 16:125)"

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things).  (The Noble Quran, 8:61)

"It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies.  For God has power (over all things); And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loveth those who are just.   God only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection).  It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.  (The Noble Quran, 60:7-9)"

"...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...(The Noble Quran, 5:32)"

So your point is bogus!

 

Again, what about the Bible's cruelty and terrorism?

There are several Verses in the Bible that seem to be very cruel.  Let us look at few of them:

Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." 

Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children?  Why kill all of the non-virgin women?  Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars.  Women rarely fought in battle fields.   So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic.  He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"  

"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin."  This is verified at this link.

Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins? 

I wonder how Silas would reply to these verses from the x-rated pornographic Bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like "wine".

Did you also know that fathers are allowed to insert their fingers into their daughters' vaginas in the porn-full bible?

My Question:  My question to Silas is, using your own standards, does this also make your porn-full bible an "invalid" book?

 

He wrote:

The next point I will respond to is Meherally’s claim that I tried to deceive my readership by using a typo:

3) Here is Meherally’s statement:

A Deception ! 
After a summary of the revealed verse, author Guillaume writes on page 113: 

"Then God sent down to him: 'Fight them so that there is no more seduction," {foot note number 2, reads (Sura 2. 198)}

Author Silas replaces the opening word of the above paragraph and quotes:

"The God sent down to him:  "Fight them so that there be no more seduction," [b]  {footnote [b] reads [Sura 2. 193]}.

Under the normal circumstances I would consider this to be a "typo" error. But, from my past experiences with other presentations on this web site, I have reasons to believe that the change of "Then " to " The " is a "deception". Silas wants the earlier quoted text of Sura 22: 39-41 to be "disassociated" with the revealed text to follow. Silas writes in his notes that he has not quoted the text of Sura 2: 193. I have reproduced below the text of the "non quoted verse": 
Note: Ibn Ishaq mentions the verse number to be 2. 198 since he may be referring to an Arabic musaf. In Yusuf Ali's translation the number is 2. 193. 

Response

It was a typo, pure and simple.

Let me point out Meherally’s desperation: he is unable to actually address the points I raise, so he grasps at straws in order to scribble his "response". Let me say it plainly: Muhammad was an evil man, and there is no shortage of material to use to prove this. I do not need to use typos to make him seem any more evil than he really was. Muhammad was a cold blooded murderer, he allowed lying, he allowed stealing, he allowed female slaves to be raped, he allowed torture, murder in the night, he committed mass murder, he ordered the murder of female slaves, he was a enslaver of people, and so on. I do not need to use a typo to cast this man in the light he deserves.

 

My response:

I have addressed your points in the above Noble Verses that I presented.

 

He wrote:

4) The next point I will address concerns Muhammad’s order to his followers to murder any Jew that they are able to murder. Meherally actually chose to partially address this in my original article. Below is his work:

My response to the above...

Silas has quoted several incidents from Guillaume's book 'The Life Of Muhammad' to illustrate that Muhammad was indeed a terrorist. Above is the first incident that he has presented before his readers with the deceitful commentaries, insinuations and innuendoes. If one can prove from the above narrated first incident, without shadow of any doubt, that Silas has in reality stooped down to the lowest level in his criticism and has now opted for visible DECEPTION AND DECEIT that would qualify him as THE LIAR, then the rest of his presentation has lost its credibility and not worth depending upon.

Before I prove to you that Silas has LIED AND WHY, let me quote the text that Silas has chopped off from the paragraph quoted above, from page 369.

Here is the text quoted by Silas: 

"The apostle said, "Kill any Jew that falls into your power."  Thereupon Muhayyisa b. Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him.  Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother.  When Muhayyisa killed him Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?'  Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.'"

 After quoting half of the paragraph Silas writes "END OF QUOTE". Below is the non quoted portion of this paragraph, written by Guillaume on page 369.

"He said that this was the beginning of Huwayyisa's acceptance of Islam. The other replied, 'By God, if Muhammad had ordered you to kill me would you have killed me?' He said, 'Yes, by God, had he ordered me to cut off your head I would have done so.' He exclaimed, 'By God, a religion which can bring you to this marvelous!' and he became a Muslim."

If one was to believe that the above mentioned killing did happen because of the order of Prophet Muhammad and that command was completely unjust and absolutely unwarranted for (as Silas wants us to believe), then could the person who had questioned the killer would have accepted Muhammad as the "Messenger of God" and become a Muslim? Please continue reading further and soon THE TRUTH will manifest before you and THE LIE will vanish.

Response

Meherally states that I deceived my readership because I did not include the conversion of Huwayyisa to Islam. Somehow he believes that this conversion to Islam justifies the cold blooded murder that just occurred. People convert to religions for various reasons. Some make sense to others, some do not. People have converted to Islam or Christianity based upon dreams, feelings, emotions, deaths, births, desperate positions, and so on. The Hijazi Arabs were not known for their high standards of morality or fealty – after all, Muslims today charge those "pagan" Arabs with burying their own daughters, excessive drinking and sexual immorality, etc. Yet now, to justify a Muslim’s cold blooded murder and Muhammad’s guilt, Meherally hypocritically uses the morality of a Hijazi Arab as a virtuous measuring stick! And notice instead of actually addressing the cause of the murder, (Muhammad’s ordering of the murder of Jews), Meherally dances away from the hard facts. As I stated above, trying to address and examine Muhammad’s evil actions is quite difficult. Here, again, Meherally chooses not to face the facts, but ignore them.

 

My response:

Some of the the Hadiths when compared to the Noble Quran fall short and become doubtful, especially the ones that have along chain of transmitters and narrators.   Some of the wordings might get lost in the narrations.

The above narration that you presented clearly contradicts the Noble Verse that I also presented above:

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors.  (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

"It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies.  For God has power (over all things); And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loveth those who are just.   God only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection).  It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.  (The Noble Quran, 60:7-9)"

It is very clear, especially in Noble Verses 60:7-9 that Muslims did fall into the sin or mistake of mistreating non-Muslims or dealing unjustly with non-Muslims before.   It appears from the text of Noble Verses 2:190 and 60:7-9 and others that GOD Almighty is Guiding the Muslims from straying away and falling into major sins to the Right and Just Path.

The reason why Muslims did carry much hard feeling toward the Jews is because Allah Almighty warned us from their deceptions in the Noble Quran:

"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam).  (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"

As we can see from the Noble Verse, some Jews and Christians wanted to play tricks on the Muslims, by embracing Islam and later deserting it, to give the Muslims the impression that Islam is false and it is not worth adopting.

The Jews also betrayed the Muslims and broke treaties with them before.  The Jews of Khaibar, for instance, were cleansed out from the Holy land of Medina because they betrayed the Muslims during the battle of Trench, where there were 3,000 pagans Vs. 700 Muslims.  The Muslims made treaty with the Jews in Medina, to protect the northern part of the city, while the Muslims defend the southern part.  But what can you say, Jews are Jews no matter how much you try to improve them, "except for a few of them (The Noble Quran, 5:13)"Nor Moses or Jesus ever liked them.  In fact, Jesus told them that GOD Almighty will remove His Kingdom from them and give it to the Muslims.   And later Prophet Muhammad suffered the same thing from them.  They betrayed the Muslims and a group of pagans to attack from the north.

Have not Allah Almighty brought victory to the Muslims by sending winds that blinded the infidels and effected not the Muslims, and caused for the Muslims to defeat the pagans a sound defeat, and have them run away back to where they came from, then the Muslims wouldn't been literally whipped out:

"Behold! they came on you from above you and from below you, and behold, the eyes became dim and the hearts gaped up to the throats, and ye imagined various (vain) thoughts about God! In that situation were the Believers tried: they were shaken as by a tremendous shaking. And behold! The Hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease (even) say: "God and His Apostle promised us nothing but delusion!" Behold! A party among them said: "Ye men of Yathrib! ye cannot stand (the attack)! therefore go back!" And a band of them ask for leave of the Prophet, saying, "Truly our houses are bare and exposed," though they were not exposed they intended nothing but to run away. And if an entry had been effected to them from the sides of the (city), and they had been incited to sedition, they would certainly have brought it to pass, with none but a brief delay! And yet they had already covenanted with God not to turn their backs, and a covenant with God must (surely) be answered for. Say: "Running away will not profit you if ye are running away from death or slaughter; and even if (ye do escape), no more than a brief (respite) will ye be allowed to enjoy!" Say: "Who is it that can screen you from God if it be His wish to give you punishment or to give you Mercy?" Nor will they find for themselves, besides God, any protector or helper. Verily God knows those among you who keep back (men) and those who say to their brethren, "Come along to us", but come not to the fight except for just a little while. Covetous over you. Then when fear comes, thou wilt see them looking to thee, their eyes revolving, like (those of) one over whom hovers death: but when the fear is past, they will smite you with sharp tongues, covetous of goods. Such men have no faith, and so God has made their deeds of none effect: and that is easy for God. They think that the Confederates have not withdrawn; and if the Confederates should come (again), they would wish they were in the deserts (wandering) among the Bedouins, and seeking news about you (from a safe distance); and if they were in your midst,  (The Noble Quran, 33:10-20)"


So to every objective reader out there, I ask that you be extra careful with the Hadiths and Islamic Narrations, because they were documented from 1 to 200 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad.  Many Hadiths and Narrations were fabricated due to political influences.  Muslims after the death of our Prophet did have several political conflicts with each others.

So to all Truth Seekers and Objective Readers out there, please compare the Hadith or Narration to the Noble Quran.  If they agree, then take them.  Otherwise, discard them, because they are doubtful.

Please visit: Muslims beware of the corruption in the Hadiths and the Bible.

As to the Noble Quran, I believe the Noble Quran's Holy Claims are Divine, because the Noble Quran had proven itself  through it's Internal and Everlasting Miracle that exists within it.  The following examples will shed some light as to what I mean:

 

From www.answering-christianity.com/sci_quran.htm:

Very Important Discovery:
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A new star forming out of a cloud of gas and dust (nebula), which is one of the remnants of the "smoke" that was the origin of the whole universe. (The Space Atlas, Heather and Henbest, page 50)
Allah Almighty said: "Then He turned to the heaven when it was smoke...(The Noble Quran, 41:11)"
The Noble Quran on the Origin of the Universe
Only Islam claims that the universe was originated from Dust and Hot Gas, or Smoke.

 

Science in Islam:

The sub sections here are:

1-  Life originated from water in the Noble Quran.
2-  The Earth's rotation, formation, and Oceanology.
3-  The Universe, Astronomy, UFOs and Space Shuttles.
4-  Embryology, Human Anatomy, Formation, and Creation from the time of sexual intercourse to
      the time of birth.
5-  The number 19 code in the Noble Quran.
6-  Medicine, Insects and Animals.
7-  Psychology.
8-  Great Web Sites.
9-  Rebuttals.
10-  Prophecies.


Life originated from water in the Noble Quran:

Life originated from water in the Noble Quran.

 

The Earth's rotation, formation and Oceanology:

The Noble Quran confirms that the earth is rotating around its axle.

Allah Almighty said that the earth is "egg-shaped".

The Earth is round according to Islam.

The amazing creation of earth and iron in the Noble Quran.   Iron came from space, and the Noble Quran mentioned it.

The amazing creation of earth and mountains in the Noble Quran.   Science confirms that mountains prevent the earth from shaking while it is revolving around itself.  The Noble Quran made a similar claim.

Geology in the Noble Quran - See the Scientific confirmation.

Oceanology in the Noble Quran - See the Scientific confirmation.  The barriers between waters in both science and the Noble Quran.

The darkness of oceans and disappearance of light was mentioned in the Noble Quran and confirmed by Science.

 

The Universe, Astronomy, UFOs and Space Shuttles:

The Noble Quran and Astronomers both claim that the Universe is 18 billion years old.

The Big Bang Theory and the Cosmic Crunch in the Noble Quran.  Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him predicted around the time when the Cosmic Crunch occurs, the Sun would rise from the West.

The Noble Quran on the Origin of the Universe. This article has pictures and quotes from Western scientific books that accurately confirm the astronomical claims of the Noble Quran.  The Noble Quran was the only book that claimed that the universe originated from Hot Gas or Smoke.  Science proved that this claim is true.

The explosion of Stars (FORMING RED ROSES), Galaxies and the Universe in the Noble Quran had been confirmed by NASA.

Comparison between Allah Almighty's claims about His Creation, and the scientific discoveries that 100% agree with Him.  Claims such as:  The universe is expanding, the existence of the sun's orbit, the protective atmosphere to the earth, Embryology and many more.

Allah Almighty said in the Noble Quran that He is "Expanding" the Universe.  Scientists already proved this claim to be true.

The "Clot" and the Creation of the Universe in the Noble Quran.

Is there mention of U.F.Os or other Human Planets in the Noble Quran?

What does the sun orbit?

Einstein's time relativity in the Noble Quran.

UFOs and Space Shuttles were explicitly mentioned in the Noble Quran!  Even the communication with UFOs was prophesied in the Noble Quran.

Aliens and UFOs in the Noble Quran.

 

Embryology, Human Anatomy, Formation and Creation from the time of sexual intercourse to the time of birth:

The Noble Quran on Human Embryonic Development.

Embryology in the Noble Quran.   The three stages of the foetus formation in the Noble Quran and Science.

Abortion in Islam is a crime!   The foetus is a human child in Islam.

The Noble Quran on the Cerebrum: Lying is generated from the person's forehead.

The region in the brain that controls our movements - In Noble Quran and confirmed by Science.

Sex determination and human creation in Islam.  Allah Almighty and Prophet Muhammad both claimed that the human gender is determined by the male's ejaculated semen.

Were human cloning and gender alteration prophesied in Islam?

Why does the Noble Quran, while speaking about determination of the identity of the individual, speak specifically about finger tips?  The Noble Quran recognized that finger tips (finger prints) are unique!

The blood circulation and the production of milk in the Breast: In the Noble Quran and Science.

Thinking with the heart besides the brain in the Noble Quran was proven by Science.

 

The number 19 code in the Noble Quran:

The Miracle of the number 19 in the Noble Quran.  Yes, the number 19 is miraculous in the Noble Quran and was proven to be essential in many of the Scientific Theories and Discoveries.  But it doesn't at all support Rashad Khalifa's removal of two Noble Verses from the Noble Quran, and his claim to be GOD Almighty's Messenger.

 

Medicine, Insects and Animals:

Animals' urine and it's relationship to medicine in Islam.

Camels could help cure humans.

Honey was proven to be healing for humans as was mentioned in the Noble Quran.

The fly insect and its cure: Mentioned in Islam and confirmed by Science (Bacteriophages).

 

Psychology:

The psychological Wisdom of Prayers in Islam was proven in Science and Psychology.

The Wisdom of the age of 40 in the Noble Quran, which had been Scientifically and Psychologically proven to be True.  See why Allah Almighty is more forgiving to those who are under the age of 40, and how Science and Psychology proved that people under 40 are less mature and tend to make more irresponsible decisions (i.e., mistakes and sins).

 

Great Web Sites:

http://www.it-is-truth.org/   This is an awesome web site that has Western scientific information that accurately confirms the Noble Quran's claims about astronomy, biology, geology and other sciences.

A detailed site that displays most of the scientific Quranic Verses that deal with astronomy, geology and biology.

The Bible, the Quran and Science.  Written by Dr Maurice Bucaille.  In his work, Dr. Baucille proves that the Quran correctly stated scientific facts unknown at the time of the Prophet - showing its divine origin!

Miracles of the Noble Quran.  Video files.

A web site for the number 19 miracle in the Noble Quran.

Evaluating Islam as a Religion based on Divine Revelation.

 

Rebuttals:

Does the Noble Quran support "The Earth moves around the Sun" theory?  Rebuttal to Mr. Avijit Roy's challenge.

My rebuttal to Avijit Roy's "Does the Quran support the Earth moves around the Sun theory" response.

My rebuttal to Avijit Roy's "Does Quran have any Scientific miracles?" article.

A Muslim response to criticism of Embryology in the Noble Quran.  By Nadeem Arif Najmi.

Allah Almighty said that the earth is "egg-shaped".  Rebuttal to the Christian "Answering Islam" team about "dahaha" in the Noble Quran.

 

Prophecies:

Please visit The Noble Quran section, and read the "Prophecies" sub section to see the great Prophecies that were fulfilled only in the Noble Quran.  The Noble Quran also made mention and promised the discovery of lost ancient cities and people's bodies, and these promises were all fulfilled today.

 

Also Silas, What about the Bible's cruelty and terrorism?

 

There are several Verses in the Bible that seem to be very cruel.  Let us look at few of them:

Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." 

Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children?  Why kill all of the non-virgin women?  Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars.  Women rarely fought in battle fields.   So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic.  He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"  

"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin."  This is verified at this link.

Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins? 

I wonder how Silas would reply to these verses from the x-rated pornographic Bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like "wine".

Did you also know that fathers are allowed to insert their fingers into their daughters' vaginas in the porn-full bible?

My Question:  My question to Silas is, using your own standards, does this also make your porn-full bible an "invalid" book?

 

He wrote:

Further, let me cast this conversion in a different light. Millions of people followed Adolph Hitler. They approved the persecution of the Jews. Did the fact that Hitler had millions of followers make his actions right? Just like Hitler, Muhammad ordered the persecution of Jews, and in this instance an unsuspecting Jewish shopkeeper, on good terms with the Muslims, was murdered. Huwayyisa thought his brother’s commitment to Muhammad’s orders proves that Islam is a true religion. People followed Hitler thinking his way was right, even to the point of murdering Jewish civilians. Was it right? You decide.

 

My response:

No, it is wrong.  Like I said above, many narrations have long chain of transmitters and narrators, and they contradict the Noble Quran.  They are very doubtful.

 

He wrote:

The Muslims that flew those planes into the NY towers, were committed just like Huwayyisa. They were willing to murder men, women, and children for Islam’s sake. And so they did. And they received the approval of millions of Muslims in America and throughout the world. Does that level of commitment make what they did right?

I say Muhammad ordered a cold blooded murder, and Islamic historians themselves document it. So, let me ask the Muslims: why are you following and trusting such an evil man? Why should anyone trust you if you give your allegiance to Muhammad? Do you really think God is going to forgive you, if you put your faith in Muhammad?

 

My response:

In regards to September 11, I have written a detailed article that explains why it is justified.  Even in the Bible, there is the "a life for a life" rule:

My explanation to the "Attack" on the US from the Islamic perspective.  See the debate that I made up between pro and anti Sept. 11 attack on the US using the Noble Quran for both sides.  You judge for yourself.  Warning to the reader:   This article contains disturbing pictures of deformed Iraqi children from the US Deplete Uranium Bombs.

Was 9/11 Prophesized in Islam?

If the US bombs a Muslim country with a Nuclear bomb, would Islam then allow for the Muslims to bomb the Americans with Nuclear Weapons?

Is the suicide bombing in Israel allowed in Islam?

Suicide Bombing in the Bible.

 

Again, what about the Bible's cruelty and terrorism?

There are several Verses in the Bible that seem to be very cruel.  Let us look at few of them:

Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." 

Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children?  Why kill all of the non-virgin women?  Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars.  Women rarely fought in battle fields.   So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic.  He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"  

"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin."  This is verified at this link.

Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins? 

I wonder how Silas would reply to these verses from the x-rated pornographic Bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like "wine".

Did you also know that fathers are allowed to insert their fingers into their daughters' vaginas in the porn-full bible?

My Question:  My question to Silas is, using your own standards, does this also make your porn-full bible an "invalid" book?

 

He wrote:

The last point I will address is

5)

A TEXT THAT SILAS WOULD NOT LIKE US TO READ... 

Silas has repeatedly quoted passages after passages from Guillaume's Book 'THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD' .  Below is one of the several passages from the same book that Silas would not like his readers to read. Please read it and see for yourself how it concurs with the Quranic revelation, quoted above. 

Response

Let me say to all my readers, please read all of Guillaume’s "The Life of Muhammad". Please do. If you want an accurate picture of just how evil and deceived Muhammad was, read this book. You will find Muhammad to be no more than a mere man, with both good and bad thoughts, intentions, and actions. And you will see how as time went on, Muhammad became more and more brutal and bloodthirsty.

On the following pages, read how

675 Muhammad had a 120 year old man – Abu Afak murdered
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

675, 676 Muhammad has a mother of 5 children brutally murdered - Asma bint Marwan
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

441, 442-445   Muhammad has Kab Ashraf murdered
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

550-551 the 10 people Muhammad orders to be murdered after he conquers Mecca
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

461-on Muhammad has mass murder carried out on a tribe of Jews and then enslaves their women and children – and sold some of them to others as slaves to get money for weapons
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

496 see how Muhammad allowed Ali to violently beat a slave girl while Muhammad watched
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

511 Muhammad passes out women as slaves
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

499 Muhammad gives a slave woman as a gift
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

493 100 families enslaved by Muhammad
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

511 Intercourse with slave women allowed
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.  (It's worse in the Bible).

 

547 see how Muhammad allowed Abu Sufyan to be forced into converting to Islam, under threat of death
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

616 Compulsion - People forced to follow Islam
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

645 Compulsion - Islam forced upon polytheists, they would not have become Muslim unless forced
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

669 Abu Bakr says people forced to accept Islam "until men accept it voluntarily or by force"
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

507, 509 Muhammad lies after Hudaybiyya and breaks the treaty
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

617, 618 Muhammad’s "Revelation" allowing him to lie and break his word and treaty with polytheists
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

665 Muhammad’s men rip an old women in half by using camels to tear her apart
Where is the proof.  Show us the text!

 

270 Muhammad’s superstition - spit three times to the left to ward off evil affects
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

305 dead - Mo taunting the dead
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

677, 678 Muhammad tortures men to punish them
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

562, 564 Muhammad’s faith - War commanded upon those that reject Islam
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

618 Muhammad’s faith – War Muhammad says God tells him to kill polytheists unless they convert
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.
By the way, Allah Almighty said in the Noble Quran: "Let there be no compulsion (forcing others) in religion:  Truth stands out clear from error....(The Noble Quran, 2:256)"

 

625 Muhammad’s faith - War - Tabuk was attacked for booty
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

629 Muhammad’s faith - War - Islam is to fight until they submit to Islam
"Let there be no compulsion (forcing others) in religion:  Truth stands out clear from error....(The Noble Quran, 2:256)"
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors.  (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

 

629 Muhammad’s faith - War - Killing is of no consequence
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

642 Muhammad’s faith - War - Mo orders Muslims to make war on Polys
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

645 Muhammad’s faith - War- Mo says come to Islam in 3 days or I'll attack non-Muslims
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

555 Muhammad’s faith – Murder - Says Allah’s anger allowed him to kill people in Mecca
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

651 Muhammad’s moral failure - instructs wife beating
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.
"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them.  (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"

 

519 Muhammad’s moral failure - lying allowed
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

106 Satanic influence – Muhammad’s suicide attempts over the next years
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

240 Satanic influence - Muhammad bewitched by a Jew
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

165, 167 Satanic influence – Satan uses Muhammad’s tongue to speak his word
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

243 Muhammad says Satan looks like a black man
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

254 Muhammad’s hatred and bigotry - Allah tells Muhammad that all Jews are evil
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.
That is a lie, because the Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran Honors the good Jews, and Promises them Heaven.

 

276 Muhammad’s hatred and bigotry – Allah curses Jews to die
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.
That is a lie, because the Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran Honors the good Jews, and Promises them Heaven.

 

192 Muhammad’s lack of faith - begs for physical help from Taif
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.
My rebuttal proved that Silas' article for this topic was the biggest joke of all!

 

195     Muhammad’s lack of faith - begs for physical protection again
My (Osama Abdallah) refutation to this.

 

Near the end of his life Muhammad engaged in conquering and subjecting areas near Medina, in order to spread Islam’s dominion. Muhammad believed he was doing God’s will. I say Muhammad was used by Satan do spread falsehood. Jesus warned that false prophets would come and deceive many, Muhammad was one such false prophet.

 

My response:

Like I mentioned above, some of the the Hadiths when compared to the Noble Quran fall short and become doubtful, especially the ones that have along chain of transmitters and narrators.  Some of the wordings might get lost in the narrations.

The above narration that you presented clearly contradicts the Noble Verse that I also presented above:

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors.  (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

"It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies.  For God has power (over all things); And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loveth those who are just.   God only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection).  It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.  (The Noble Quran, 60:7-9)"

It is very clear, especially in Noble Verses 60:7-9 that Muslims did fall into the sin or mistake of mistreating non-Muslims or dealing unjustly with non-Muslims before.   It appears from the text of Noble Verses 2:190 and 60:7-9 and others that GOD Almighty is Guiding the Muslims from straying away and falling into major sins to the Right and Just Path.

The reason why Muslims did carry much hard feeling toward the Jews is because Allah Almighty warned us from their deceptions in the Noble Quran:

"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam).  (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"

As we can see from the Noble Verse, some Jews and Christians wanted to play tricks on the Muslims, by embracing Islam and later deserting it, to give the Muslims the impression that Islam is false and it is not worth adopting.

The Jews also betrayed the Muslims and broke treaties with them before.  The Jews of Khaibar, for instance, were cleansed out from the Holy land of Medina because they betrayed the Muslims during the battle of Trench, where there were 3,000 pagans Vs. 700 Muslims.  The Muslims made treaty with the Jews in Medina, to protect the northern part of the city, while the Muslims defend the southern part.  But what can you say, Jews are Jews no matter how much you try to improve them, "except for a few of them (The Noble Quran, 5:13)"Nor Moses or Jesus ever liked them.  In fact, Jesus told them that GOD Almighty will remove His Kingdom from them and give it to the Muslims.   And later Prophet Muhammad suffered the same thing from them.  They betrayed the Muslims and a group of pagans to attack from the north.

Have not Allah Almighty brought victory to the Muslims by sending winds that blinded the infidels and effected not the Muslims, and caused for the Muslims to defeat the pagans a sound defeat, and have them run away back to where they came from, then the Muslims wouldn't been literally whipped out:

"Behold! they came on you from above you and from below you, and behold, the eyes became dim and the hearts gaped up to the throats, and ye imagined various (vain) thoughts about God! In that situation were the Believers tried: they were shaken as by a tremendous shaking. And behold! The Hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease (even) say: "God and His Apostle promised us nothing but delusion!" Behold! A party among them said: "Ye men of Yathrib! ye cannot stand (the attack)! therefore go back!" And a band of them ask for leave of the Prophet, saying, "Truly our houses are bare and exposed," though they were not exposed they intended nothing but to run away. And if an entry had been effected to them from the sides of the (city), and they had been incited to sedition, they would certainly have brought it to pass, with none but a brief delay! And yet they had already covenanted with God not to turn their backs, and a covenant with God must (surely) be answered for. Say: "Running away will not profit you if ye are running away from death or slaughter; and even if (ye do escape), no more than a brief (respite) will ye be allowed to enjoy!" Say: "Who is it that can screen you from God if it be His wish to give you punishment or to give you Mercy?" Nor will they find for themselves, besides God, any protector or helper. Verily God knows those among you who keep back (men) and those who say to their brethren, "Come along to us", but come not to the fight except for just a little while. Covetous over you. Then when fear comes, thou wilt see them looking to thee, their eyes revolving, like (those of) one over whom hovers death: but when the fear is past, they will smite you with sharp tongues, covetous of goods. Such men have no faith, and so God has made their deeds of none effect: and that is easy for God. They think that the Confederates have not withdrawn; and if the Confederates should come (again), they would wish they were in the deserts (wandering) among the Bedouins, and seeking news about you (from a safe distance); and if they were in your midst,  (The Noble Quran, 33:10-20)"


So to every objective reader out there, I ask that you be extra careful with the Hadiths and Islamic Narrations, because they were documented from 1 to 200 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad.  Many Hadiths and Narrations were fabricated due to political influences.  Muslims after the death of our Prophet did have several political conflicts with each others.

So to all Truth Seekers and Objective Readers out there, please compare the Hadith or Narration to the Noble Quran.  If they agree, then take them.  Otherwise, discard them, because they are doubtful.

Please visit: Muslims beware of the corruption in the Hadiths and the Bible.

 

Again, what about the Bible's Cruelty Silas?

There are several Verses in the Bible that seem to be very cruel.  Let us look at few of them:

Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." 

Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children?  Why kill all of the non-virgin women?  Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars.  Women rarely fought in battle fields.   So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic.  He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"  

"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin."  This is verified at this link.

Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins? 

I wonder how Silas would reply to these verses from the x-rated pornographic Bible; the book of women's breasts and vaginas taste like "wine".

Did you also know that fathers are allowed to insert their fingers into their daughters' vaginas in the porn-full bible?

My Question:  My question to Silas is, using your own standards, does this also make your porn-full bible an "invalid" book?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Back to My Rebuttals, and exposing the lies of the Answering Islam team section.

Rebuttals to Silas' Articles section.

Answering Trinity.

Contradictions and History of Corruption in the Bible.

Questions about Jesus that trinitarian Christians don't have logical answers for.

What parts of the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth? and Why?

"Allah" was GOD Almighty's original Name in the Bible according to the Hebrew and Aramaic sources.

Scientific Miracles in Islam and the Noble Quran.

Most of the Bible's books and gospels were written by mysterious people!

Jesus mentioned Muhammad by the name in the Bible.

Did Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the crucifixion of Jesus? It supports Islam's claims about Jesus peace be upon him never died on the cross.  I also addressed John 19:36-37 from the Bible and proved that Jesus never got crucified, since GOD Almighty promised that he will protect Jesus' body and not let even a single bone be broken.  My question to all Christians is: How in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on the cross without any penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the feet's bones?! I also added refutations to Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12, Zechariah 12:10 and Psalm 34:20, which supposedly prove the Christians' belief about Jesus crucifixion.  I proved that this dogma has no truth what so ever and exposed the wrong Trinitarian English translation of Zechariah 12:10.


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